eheroblockman Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5241 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 1 of 3 09 August 2010 at 1:04am | IP Logged |
Hi people, just wondering what materials people would recommend for the learning of Italian? I have a Pimsleur beginner thing, but only the CDs that came with the package (the library didn't have the coursebook). I'd prefer to be able to read and write as well as speaking the language though, so what do people recommend?
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staf250 Pentaglot Senior Member Belgium emmerick.be Joined 5696 days ago 352 posts - 414 votes Speaks: French, Dutch*, Italian, English, German Studies: Arabic (Written)
| Message 2 of 3 09 August 2010 at 11:30am | IP Logged |
First things first:
Ho letto e visto che il membro Numerodix ce l'ha fatta in +/- 600 ore . Scrive del suo libro di studio:
In English: Our member Numerodix learnt Italian in +/- 600 hours. He used this:
"WHAT TO GET
This textbook course is published with a number of accompanying texts. You don't need all of them. You
need these:
La lingua Italiana per stranieri: Corso elementare ed intermedio
- Volume unico (the textbook)
- Chiavi (the answer booklet to the exercises in the textbook)
I also got the "Esercizi di vocabolario", but I don't find that is a very effective way to learn vocabulary and
I've abandoned it.
Publisher: http://www.guerra-edizioni.com
Course link: course"
Second point:
Non dimenticare che studiando nel libro "La lingua Italiana per stranieri", non si impara PARLARE l'italiano.
Intendo che bisogna studiare in più, per esempio, "Italiano senza sforzo" by Assimil. Se vuoi parlare e farti
capire dagli Italiani è importantissimo che metti l'accento giusto sia sulla parola, sia nella sentenza. Queste
sono cose che si impara già dalla prima lezione, studiando con Assimil.
In English: Because the stress in words and sentences is important to speak Italian, my advise "Assimil
Italian without toil." You will speak your first sentences from the first day on, and sounding like an Italian.
Good Luck, this was my contribution to you. You're Welcome.
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6010 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 3 of 3 09 August 2010 at 2:06pm | IP Logged |
Don't be afraid of learning to speak before learning to read.
When learning a new language -- particularly your first foreign language -- your native language reading reflexes can get in the way.
Reading works by the brain cross-wiring the written image with the related sounds. So it's very difficult for an absolute beginner to look at something simple like "i" (one of the Italian forms for "the") and pronounce it as an "ee" sound. It's hard to get used to a new sound system when your brain keeps twisting the sounds into something else. It's easier to get a strong feel for the sound system and then start connecting sounds that you're familiar with to the letters.
There are other bad habits you can get into in reading and writing that get in the way of speaking -- for example, the brain seems to be able to read in any order without you actually noticing it, so you end up ignoring the natural word order of Italian. But when you hear or speak Italian, the word order is fixed and you can't just rearrange it in your head.
All in all, it's pretty easy to learn to read Italian after you've learned to speak a bit.
(Although personally I would have recommended starting with Michel Thomas rather than Pimsleur, but never mind.)
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