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CaucusWolf Senior Member United States Joined 5274 days ago 191 posts - 234 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Arabic (Written), Japanese
| Message 9 of 10 15 July 2010 at 8:56pm | IP Logged |
Honest wrote:
I've noticed some odd writing too before on a sign on a random news station.(Dubai TV I think.) The ش and ث were upside down and it wasn't like the usual calligraphy it was written out in a straight line like normal and if in fact thats what it was supposed to be it seems very odd to me. If this happens a lot I'd be surprised if natives didn't get confused every once in a while. Arabic grammar can get confusing so writing letters upside down etc makes it that much harder to read and understand. |
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I've never seen ت and ش are written upside down! If you show me some, I may tell you. Or maybe it wasn't Arabic; Persian, perhaps!![/QUOTE]
Yea it could've been Persian I saw it on Link TV's Mosaic Report. It was on a sign I can't remember particularly where they where filming it or what the topic was.
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| Ubik Senior Member United States ubykh.wordpress.com/ Joined 5318 days ago 147 posts - 176 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin, Arabic (Egyptian), German, Spanish
| Message 10 of 10 20 July 2010 at 11:13pm | IP Logged |
TheGBiBanana wrote:
I've recently aquired an Arabic newspaper and to my suprise there are a bunch of letter combonations that I can not figure out for the life of me, the only ones I figured out were the lam/mim on top of a jaa and such but there are some weird combonations in this paper. I googled it until I couldn't anymore and didn't find any explanations on what I'm looking at. Anybody have any idea what I'm talking about or where I can find some explanations? |
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This is hard to explain without being able to show you exactly...maybe I could scan a PDF to you via email or something, but I know with the Lam and Miim combination that you go down starting the Lam, make the Miim bubble on the right bottom corner and then curve it around to the left and continue with the next letter. So it ends up looking like a backwards capital L with a bubble in the corner.
With the jiim, ha, kha letters they often start way above the line and continue down bringing other letters with them along the way. You can start way above the line with a B for example,angle it into a jiim and then when you reach the line, continue on with the next letters.
Im not very good at drawing them that way. I always go for the "flattest" look I can when Im writing. Another letter that is very complicated is the other H (non-emphatic). In initial and isolated it can either resemble a snail (also kinda like an @ symbol) or it can look like a teardrop with a line coming down from the top point bisecting the "teardrop" to create the tail connecting it to other letters.
Also, the siin and shiin in text have the two bumps followed by the last larger bump that dips down under the line. When you are handwriting them you start with a small slash upwards and to the right from just below the line and make a much longer, but straight segment until the next letter, or if its the last letter then you finish up with the last bubble that dips down below the line.
I hope the above helps somewhat. Im learning it from the Alif-Baa textbook which is from the same set of books as what the other poster mentioned (Al-Kitaab I think). Alif Baa is just the very first one in the series. I cant attest to the other one as I havent used it myself, but Alif Baa does go into the variations
Edited by Ubik on 20 July 2010 at 11:22pm
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