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| Lakkhamu Diglot Groupie Turkey Joined 5246 days ago 63 posts - 65 votes  Speaks: English, Turkish* Studies: Latin, German, Russian | Message 9 of 27 18 July 2010 at 10:28am | IP Logged | |||||
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And how hard are they to learn? Do they all represent a single word? How can you type then with a keyboard?
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| Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6770 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek | Message 10 of 27 18 July 2010 at 10:49am | IP Logged | |||||
You can get a much better explanation by reading Wikipedia, but generally a single character is used for native Japanese words, and two characters for words borrowed from Chinese over the centuries. You type by entering the pronunciation of the word and letting the computer give you options for inserting the proper characters. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Tyr Senior Member Sweden Joined 5784 days ago 316 posts - 384 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish | Message 11 of 27 18 July 2010 at 3:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
Thats it? If you think something else is better say so, don't just say something I found to be one of the best language learning resources going isn't good.
Me when learning it. Its widely known to be one of the main easy factors of learning Japanese. Its often exagerated into Japanese having no grammar which is untrue but it is true there isn't much in the way of grammar as we would know it. Its not where the difficulty of Japanese lies. Edited by Tyr on 18 July 2010 at 3:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kidshomestunner Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6407 days ago 239 posts - 285 votes Speaks: Japanese | Message 12 of 27 18 July 2010 at 11:53pm | IP Logged | |||||
This is totally untrue. One book on Japanese grammar has 1198 pages... Japanese grammar is quite tricky. I fell down the trap of thinking that it was easy. DIfferent (to European Grammar) yes, easy no. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| minus273 Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5767 days ago 288 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, EnglishC2, French Studies: Ancient Greek, Tibetan | Message 13 of 27 19 July 2010 at 1:04am | IP Logged | |||||
The grammar books mainly explain usages. Not that the morphology is irregular or the syntax is bewildering. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kidshomestunner Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6407 days ago 239 posts - 285 votes Speaks: Japanese | Message 14 of 27 19 July 2010 at 3:29am | IP Logged | |||||
What is the past of iku? Is this regular? What is the negative of aru? Is this irregular? Verbs are even more irregular in keigo forms. I have been told that people think that stuff like nakanaka is hard, and personally I found the conditionals a difficulty and knowing which stem to add the endings to is difficult. If it isn't bewildering then why isn't everyone doing it? Do you find Japanese grammar easy minus 273? Edited by kidshomestunner on 19 July 2010 at 4:02am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ericspinelli Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5785 days ago 249 posts - 493 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Italian | Message 15 of 27 19 July 2010 at 9:35am | IP Logged | |||||
Though I have heard it said of Chinese many times, until now I have never heard anybody say that Japanese has no or little grammar. That's good, because Japanese most certainly does have grammar. If verb/adjective inflection and case particles aren't grammar, I don't know what is. I have also never heard anybody actually proficient in Japanese say that Japanese grammar is easy. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6441 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 16 of 27 19 July 2010 at 10:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
It depends on what you're using Slime Forest for, I suppose. I found "Remembering the Kanji" to be much more effective for learning characters, for instance. I put quite a lot of hours into Slime Forest a few years ago, and learned almost nothing, though it seems to have changed somewhat in the last few years. If you're happy with it, great, but I've had uniformly poor results trying to learn characters from RPG drill games (Slime Forest isn't the only one I tried). As for grammar, other posters have discussed it. Japanese grammar doesn't have the type of synthetic case system and verb morphology you find in Russian, German, or Spanish*, but it has plenty of intricacies. * for Spanish, I only mean the verb morphology. Edited by Volte on 19 July 2010 at 10:47pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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