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| arturs Triglot Senior Member Latvia Joined 5270 days ago 278 posts - 408 votes  Speaks: Latvian*, Russian, English | Message 1 of 7 20 July 2010 at 5:55pm | IP Logged |
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Hello everyone. The problem here starts that the only Arabic materials I can get in local stores are in English or Russian, and not in my native language, so it means I have to look for materials on the web in English, where there is a huge load of good stuff. So I'm interested in ordering some books on the web, mostly on grammar and maybe some dictionary.
So OK - for grammar I'm interested in these books: 1) http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781403941091/Mastering -Arabic-Grammar 2) http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9780415415712/Arabic 3) http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9780550105189/Chambers- Arabic-Grammar 4) http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9789774160127/Modern-St andard-Arabic-Grammar These are the grammar books that attracted my attention Which one is the best?? Oh and if You know better materials, say it. :) Good online grammar resources are welcomed. The second part is about the dictionaries: 1) http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9780199561155/Oxford-Es sential-Arabic-Dictionary 2) http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781898948209/Arabic-En glishEnglish-Arabic-Dictionary The first one is available in local stores, i checked it out, seemed quite good for a beginner like me, but I have read some stuff on the web, that the spelling of Arabic words is bad - no dots, etc. The third part - reading materials: 1) http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9780863564369/Modern-Ar abic-Short-Stories But since the web is full with good texts available (also parallel) then this is not a big concern. Thank you very much already for the answers. شكرا جزيلا Edited by arturs on 20 July 2010 at 5:56pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| rad Newbie United States Joined 5613 days ago 18 posts - 23 votes Speaks: French | Message 2 of 7 21 July 2010 at 4:08pm | IP Logged |
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I may be familiar with only one of the books--the first grammar you listed by Wightman. If it's the one I used briefly, it is nicely formatted and very simple. All the books you have listed seem to be basic grammar with not much detail.
This is the grammar book I am using currently. There are CDs and each lesson begins with two or three audio portions usually something touristy. A transcript is included. http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9780340869970/Teach-You rself-Arabic It seems okay. The layout seems to be getting more awkward as I progress and I'm only on lesson 5. I've also started with the FSI arabic course online. (lesson 2) This is apparently geared to reading newspapers. The Oxford dictionaries are usually good. I bought this dictionary since it was the only one available at local bookstores http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/search?searchTerm=Arabic+Pra ctical+Dictionary I've been happy with it so far, but am itching to get the Wehr dictionary. Jean 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| rad Newbie United States Joined 5613 days ago 18 posts - 23 votes Speaks: French | Message 3 of 7 21 July 2010 at 4:23pm | IP Logged |
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Sorry the first book is by Wightwick, and it is not the one I had used.
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| arturs Triglot Senior Member Latvia Joined 5270 days ago 278 posts - 408 votes Speaks: Latvian*, Russian, English | Message 4 of 7 21 July 2010 at 5:39pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks. I checked some excerpts of the book that I listed as second. It seems quite good, since at this moment a grammar reference is more needed, since my progress with every language is better when I have a "dry" grammar reference.
The TYS book looks nice from the point that is has audio with it, but at the same time I have TYS Finnish, Dutch, Swedish and Japanese and they all are more like phrasebooks (that's what Prof. Arguelles talks about in his reviews also) - maybe that works for others, but the TYS approach is not the best for me - yes, it gives something, but not that much for me. So I'll go with the Oxford dictionary also. Thanks. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| ilanbg Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6409 days ago 166 posts - 189 votes Speaks: French, English* Studies: Spanish, Arabic (classical), Persian | Message 5 of 7 21 July 2010 at 6:28pm | IP Logged |
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This is considered the industry standard for Arabic-English dictionary:
http://www.amazon.com/Arabic-English-Dictionary-Modern-Writt en-Arabic/dp/0879500034 The only caveat is that it requires understanding the Arabic root system, so this book won't be immediately useful to beginners. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| aldous Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5241 days ago 73 posts - 174 votes Speaks: English*, French | Message 6 of 7 21 July 2010 at 10:11pm | IP Logged |
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Ilanbg is right. Hans Wehr (as it's called) is the standard Arabic-English dictionary. It also comes in Arabic-German if you're more comfortable with German, but only in hardback and rather expensive.
I think that's the only Arabic-English dictionary you should bother with. As an absolute beginner you won't be able to look things up in it yet, since the entries are arranged by root, but you'll probably learn the root system before you come to the point you need to look things up in a dictionary. But I guess that depends on your personal language-learning strategy. (For what it's worth, I've also heard bad things about the Oxford Arabic-English dictionary, but I've never used it myself so I don't have any personal experience to speak from.) As for English-Arabic, the only one I've used is al-Mawrid. To the limited extent I've used it I've been pleased with it. Al-Mawrid comes in various sizes and price points. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5319 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 7 of 7 21 July 2010 at 11:15pm | IP Logged |
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You might also find the free Windows version of the Verbace Arabic-English-Arabic popup dictionary useful, which you can download here.
Online resources that you might find useful: - Araflex Arabic Morphological Analyzer (returns all possible patterns and roots for unvocalized Arabic words) - AKON Arabic Verb Conjugator (conjugates triliteral Arabic verbs) 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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