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| Perisie Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5235 days ago 1 posts - 2 votes | Message 1 of 8 25 July 2010 at 11:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have been struggling with the Spanish/russian/trilled R since I first attempted it over a year ago. Many British people can't do this (although many can do it completely naturally without practice).
My problem is not necessarily the tongue fluttering/vibrating. My problem is combining the R sound with the fluttering, or creating an R sound whilst fluttering. I was never good at pronouncing English Rs. I was one of those kids who say "wabbit" instead of "rabbit" (just one of a million things I was being teased for by age 14. and people wonder why I'm bitter?). I still accidently say Ws instead of Rs sometimes, maybe once or twice a week. In trilling my Rs in words, I seem to get the pronounciation of the R out in "higher pitch" words like Trist and Rest. When it comes to lower pitch words like Room, the fluttering occurs but the strong R sound doesn't - it comes out more like "UH-rOOM". I cannot growl (GRRRRR) and I cannot purr (PRRRRR). If you have any ideas on how to advise me it would be greatly appreciated!!! YOUTUBE LINK of me trying to say various things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W_ztlMVqek&feature=player_em bedded 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| aarontp Groupie United States Joined 5266 days ago 94 posts - 139 votes  | Message 2 of 8 25 July 2010 at 11:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm having trouble with it as well. Which is annoying because I'm studying both Spanish
and Russian. I'm a little concerned I may never get it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6674 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 3 of 8 26 July 2010 at 12:01am | IP Logged | ||
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You can look at my sounds.
I uploaded some explanations two years ago. Maybe it's useful for you. http://www.how-to-learn-any-language.com/sounds/index.asp?b= 1559 Spanish Rolling R: http://www.how-to-learn-any-language.com/sounds/242.mp3 Shadowing Spanish rolling R: http://www.how-to-learn-any-language.com/sounds/235.mp3 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| aarontp Groupie United States Joined 5266 days ago 94 posts - 139 votes | Message 4 of 8 26 July 2010 at 12:23am | IP Logged | ||
I just noticed that. Funny, I had to go to speech therapy as a kid for my r's as well. I think I have it down now though :) I also struggle distinguishing sounds sometimes; particularly over the phone. It's the "easy" things in life that give me the most trouble. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| aarontp Groupie United States Joined 5266 days ago 94 posts - 139 votes | Message 5 of 8 26 July 2010 at 12:27am | IP Logged | ||
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I have one question Slucido. Where on the palate do you usually touch your tongue? Is
it right on the border with the teeth, or further back? Does any part of the tongue touch the teeth? I'm told by Spanish speakers that my ordinary Spanish r sounds fine. It's just the trilling that I need work on. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| johntm93 Senior Member United States Joined 5326 days ago 587 posts - 746 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish | Message 6 of 8 26 July 2010 at 3:12am | IP Logged | ||
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Look at some videos on youtube, it's kind of tricky at first but I got it pretty quickly (I can even do it with a retainer in!)
Even with your "impediment" (if that's what you want to call it, no offense if it isn't) I think you could learn it if you try. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5555 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 7 of 8 26 July 2010 at 12:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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I know a girl who couldn't roll her 'R's properly most her life despite being Russian. It's far more common than you may first think (I also know two Italians with the same problem). So anyway, one day, now in her mid-twenties, she decided she was fed up with this and just practiced the sound for an hour or so and nothing else. It was probably not the most exciting thing to do at the time, but one of the most rewarding. She was able to perfect the sound that very day and has never had a problem since. True story.
I could contact her and ask what she did in particular, if you like? :) Edited by Teango on 26 July 2010 at 1:04pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6674 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 8 of 8 26 July 2010 at 3:09pm | IP Logged | ||
I don't touch my teeth with my tongue. It touches a little behind the teeth and trills. It's the sound that children produce when they imagine that they're shooting a sub-machine gun. Edited by slucido on 26 July 2010 at 3:13pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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