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Arekkusu
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 Message 9 of 26
03 March 2010 at 3:49am | IP Logged 
ruskivyetr wrote:
I think that people would be more surprised to discover that
you are not a native speaker without an accent than they would be if you spoke flawlessly
with a slight accent.


I'm learning Japanese. Doesn't really matter how well I sound, I just don't look Japanese
and never will! Therefore, grammar is what impresses Japanese speakers the most, I find.
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numerodix
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 Message 10 of 26
03 March 2010 at 8:05am | IP Logged 
I'm bilingual and my biggest flaw in my Italian is that my Norwegian shines through sometimes.
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Captain Haddock
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 Message 11 of 26
03 March 2010 at 8:09am | IP Logged 
My mother is bilingual German-English, but as the child of immigrants she didn't learn English until about 5 or so.
Whenever she tries to pronounce a foreign word, she says it with a German accent.
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apatch3
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 Message 12 of 26
08 April 2010 at 10:27pm | IP Logged 
I was raised in a Bi-lingual household in the UK, I feel that speaking a language with a foreign accent (especially if you've spent a long time studying it) is simply a crime against nature, I don't mean to be rude but when I hear a really bad accent I just get ticked off I start to wonder if the person in question really doesn't care about what an idiot he/she sounds like. Having said all of this In turn I do my level best to eliminate any trace of a non-native accent I may have and I can proudly say that when I speak french or japanese I do so with perfect pronunciation. ...This might just be me but I've always had the urge to slap people who fail to bother pronouncing the french letter J properly ... "JE M'APPELLE *thwak*" (no offence everyone I suppose I am a little obsessive about certain things)
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Johntm
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 Message 13 of 26
09 April 2010 at 12:04am | IP Logged 
apatch3 wrote:
Having said all of this In turn I do my level best to eliminate any trace of a non-native accent I may have and I can proudly say that when I speak french or japanese I do so with perfect pronunciation. ...This might just be me but I've always had the urge to slap people who fail to bother pronouncing the french letter J properly ... "JE M'APPELLE *thwak*" (no offence everyone I suppose I am a little obsessive about certain things)
I wasn't raised bilingual, but I try to get as close to a native accent as I can.
Don't worry, when I hear people pronounce Spanish words terribly I almost want to slap them. But the guy on the Michel Thomas Spanish CD (the student, not Michel), I swear to God I want to beat his head in with a blunt object.
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apatch3
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 Message 14 of 26
09 April 2010 at 12:15am | IP Logged 
lol John you've made my day I guess there are people who think the same way out there. There are certain ways languages are meant to be spoken. Not making a conscious effort to conform should be punishable by law! (jk).
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 Message 15 of 26
09 April 2010 at 12:20am | IP Logged 
I was raised bilingual (Hebrew+Russian). Although technically Russian is my first language, it's not as good as my Hebrew but I've been complemented on my Russian a number of times. I was told that no matter what language you speak, if you have an accent it will be of your first language. This is very true for me because even though I've been living in the US for a long time I still have a (slight) Russian accent and I was never told that I have an Israeli accent.

I'm learning Spanish right now in school and even though I've been taking it for only three years so far, a couple of Spanish teachers were shocked to hear me speak because apparently I pronounce it perfectly or almost perfectly (Hebrew and Russian definitely help).

Johntm and apatch3, I know exactly how you feel. There are students in my Spanish class who sound as if they are trying to make their American accents even thicker, which makes me feel a little sick every time.
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apatch3
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 Message 16 of 26
09 April 2010 at 12:23am | IP Logged 
We really need to form a serial slapping squad that randomly invades language classes, and humiliates these perpetrators on live TV XD


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