Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5381 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 9 of 26 03 March 2010 at 3:49am | IP Logged |
ruskivyetr wrote:
I think that people would be more surprised to discover that
you are not a native speaker without an accent than they would be if you spoke flawlessly
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I'm learning Japanese. Doesn't really matter how well I sound, I just don't look Japanese
and never will! Therefore, grammar is what impresses Japanese speakers the most, I find.
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numerodix Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6783 days ago 856 posts - 1226 votes Speaks: EnglishC2*, Norwegian*, Polish*, Italian, Dutch, French Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 10 of 26 03 March 2010 at 8:05am | IP Logged |
I'm bilingual and my biggest flaw in my Italian is that my Norwegian shines through sometimes.
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6768 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 11 of 26 03 March 2010 at 8:09am | IP Logged |
My mother is bilingual German-English, but as the child of immigrants she didn't learn English until about 5 or so.
Whenever she tries to pronounce a foreign word, she says it with a German accent.
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apatch3 Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6185 days ago 80 posts - 99 votes Speaks: Pashto, English* Studies: Japanese, FrenchA2
| Message 12 of 26 08 April 2010 at 10:27pm | IP Logged |
I was raised in a Bi-lingual household in the UK, I feel that speaking a language with a foreign accent (especially if you've spent a long time studying it) is simply a crime against nature, I don't mean to be rude but when I hear a really bad accent I just get ticked off I start to wonder if the person in question really doesn't care about what an idiot he/she sounds like. Having said all of this In turn I do my level best to eliminate any trace of a non-native accent I may have and I can proudly say that when I speak french or japanese I do so with perfect pronunciation. ...This might just be me but I've always had the urge to slap people who fail to bother pronouncing the french letter J properly ... "JE M'APPELLE *thwak*" (no offence everyone I suppose I am a little obsessive about certain things)
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Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5422 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 13 of 26 09 April 2010 at 12:04am | IP Logged |
apatch3 wrote:
Having said all of this In turn I do my level best to eliminate any trace of a non-native accent I may have and I can proudly say that when I speak french or japanese I do so with perfect pronunciation. ...This might just be me but I've always had the urge to slap people who fail to bother pronouncing the french letter J properly ... "JE M'APPELLE *thwak*" (no offence everyone I suppose I am a little obsessive about certain things) |
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I wasn't raised bilingual, but I try to get as close to a native accent as I can.
Don't worry, when I hear people pronounce Spanish words terribly I almost want to slap them. But the guy on the Michel Thomas Spanish CD (the student, not Michel), I swear to God I want to beat his head in with a blunt object.
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apatch3 Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6185 days ago 80 posts - 99 votes Speaks: Pashto, English* Studies: Japanese, FrenchA2
| Message 14 of 26 09 April 2010 at 12:15am | IP Logged |
lol John you've made my day I guess there are people who think the same way out there. There are certain ways languages are meant to be spoken. Not making a conscious effort to conform should be punishable by law! (jk).
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bawflag Triglot Newbie United States Joined 5574 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: Russian, Modern Hebrew*, English Studies: French
| Message 15 of 26 09 April 2010 at 12:20am | IP Logged |
I was raised bilingual (Hebrew+Russian). Although technically Russian is my first language, it's not as good as my Hebrew but I've been complemented on my Russian a number of times. I was told that no matter what language you speak, if you have an accent it will be of your first language. This is very true for me because even though I've been living in the US for a long time I still have a (slight) Russian accent and I was never told that I have an Israeli accent.
I'm learning Spanish right now in school and even though I've been taking it for only three years so far, a couple of Spanish teachers were shocked to hear me speak because apparently I pronounce it perfectly or almost perfectly (Hebrew and Russian definitely help).
Johntm and apatch3, I know exactly how you feel. There are students in my Spanish class who sound as if they are trying to make their American accents even thicker, which makes me feel a little sick every time.
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apatch3 Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6185 days ago 80 posts - 99 votes Speaks: Pashto, English* Studies: Japanese, FrenchA2
| Message 16 of 26 09 April 2010 at 12:23am | IP Logged |
We really need to form a serial slapping squad that randomly invades language classes, and humiliates these perpetrators on live TV XD
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