Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5381 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 17 of 45 03 March 2010 at 9:57pm | IP Logged |
Tombstone wrote:
Though I am an American I spent several of my summers living with family in Winnipeg in Manitoba.
A huge portion of the population spoke either Chinese or Ukrainian. Very, very little French.
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I live in Winnipeg. It is a statistical fact that there are less Ukrainian speakers than French speakers in Manitoba. I can't remember the last time I heard Ukrainian, although I do hear Chinese on the bus every now and then. I know a lot of people of Ukrainian descent, but they never spoke Ukrainian.
Certain parts of Winnipeg may not have many French speakers, and I assume that is where you stayed, but in certain areas, such as in Saint-Boniface, francophones make up as much as 30-35% of the population and there are many French-language schools in and outside of the city, as well as an active arts scene.
That being said, the importance given to French in Manitoba is certainly not based on demographics, but rather on historical and legal considerations.
Lastly, the Olympics being held in Vancouver does not justify a lesser use of the other official language -- the Olympics were financed by all Canadians.
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6768 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 18 of 45 04 March 2010 at 7:24am | IP Logged |
Indeed, I had a friend who did a summer-long French immersion program in Manitoba. (I don't recall which town or
city though.)
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Levi Pentaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5567 days ago 2268 posts - 3328 votes Speaks: English*, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Italian
| Message 19 of 45 04 March 2010 at 10:17pm | IP Logged |
While it is true that French is largely confined to eastern Canada (with notable exceptions such as Franco-Manitobans), Quebec is not the only place where it is a major language. It is widely spoken in the Maritimes and Ontario as well. Even here in upstate New York, I converse with French Canadians in French just about every day.
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Vinlander Groupie Canada Joined 5821 days ago 62 posts - 69 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 20 of 45 05 March 2010 at 4:34am | IP Logged |
Whatever outside of Quebec french is at the bottom of the list, I work at a call center that serves all of ontario, and I get way more serbs, mandarin cantoese, punjabia, and Italian, callers and i don't just mean people with accents people with french last names are extremely rare outside of the gatineau region. Its pure racism that the languages aren't official and french is. By the way Quebecois are very much xenophobes, so please don't act like their for adding more languages. Don't get me wrong I love Quebec more than much other provinces but don't kid yourself Quebec is french and the rest is whatever.
The biggest lie is Canada is that were Half french. The truth is there about 1/5 of the pop, Usa has more hispanics per capita.
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5381 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 21 of 45 05 March 2010 at 5:07am | IP Logged |
Vinlander wrote:
By the way Quebecois are very much xenophobes |
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I heard the exact opposite from every immigrant I met in Québec, including all the
foreign students I had in my French classes.
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5381 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 22 of 45 05 March 2010 at 5:23am | IP Logged |
doviende wrote:
I think there's way too much French going on.
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WortDrauf wrote:
The significance of French in Canada seems to be exaggerated
internationally. [...] I'm glad there isn't anymore French than there already
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Vinlander wrote:
By the way Quebecois are very much xenophobes, so please don't act
like their for adding more languages. Don't get me wrong I love Quebec more than much
other provinces but don't kid yourself Quebec is french and the rest is whatever.
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Is it me, or I'm picking up a bit of an anti-French vibe? Not exactly the kind of
comments I would have expected to find in a forum dedicated to... languages.
Edited by Arekkusu on 05 March 2010 at 5:37am
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Wilco Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6330 days ago 160 posts - 247 votes Speaks: French*, English, Russian
| Message 23 of 45 05 March 2010 at 5:35am | IP Logged |
Vinlander wrote:
By the way Quebecois are very much xenophobes, so please don't act like their for adding more languages. |
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You are insulting 7 millions of your French-speaking compatriots, and I am "very much xenophobe"?
You can't be serious. Please edit your message.
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Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5677 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish
| Message 24 of 45 05 March 2010 at 7:51am | IP Logged |
I'm not sure whether the Quebecois are xenophobic.
On a racial level, they definitely aren't. More so than any other place I've ever
visited, Quebec is absolutely an inclusive and welcoming society.
However, on an ethno-cultural front, the lines become blurred. Some Quebecois regard
foreign customs and values as being undesirable and aren't afraid of saying so.
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