Smart Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5339 days ago 352 posts - 398 votes Speaks: Spanish, English*, Latin, French Studies: German
| Message 1 of 36 15 April 2010 at 2:04am | IP Logged |
Elaborated on page four, ignore the below text for I explained further with more personal details on pg4. Thanks
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Hello, perhaps this is not the correct forum. I was contemplating the advice center but I believe that is for novice questions, the other recommended forum is probably not a good place either.
I have never asked before, but when I was overlooking the forum, I noticed people labeled themselves bilingual. Now I speak English and Spanish with native fluency.
Here's the question:
I am wondering if I began to learn Spanish at 3, basic-fluent at 8 and was fluent at 11 if I am bilingual?
I use the language daily and I even read literature in it.
However I do not use it as a true secondary "native" language, as English is the de facto language of my state (California). [my conversions in-house and with friends is predominantly English]
So am I considered bilingual or no?
Thanks guys!
Edited by Smart on 20 April 2010 at 2:27am
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Delodephius Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 5403 days ago 342 posts - 501 votes Speaks: Slovak*, Serbo-Croatian*, EnglishC1, Czech Studies: Russian, Japanese
| Message 2 of 36 15 April 2010 at 2:13am | IP Logged |
I don't use Serbian 99% of the time but I'm considered bilingual by everyone I know. Even I consider myself bilingual. However, I might as well consider myself trilingual since I speak English fluently. I actually wrote that in my college application. :-P
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Smart Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5339 days ago 352 posts - 398 votes Speaks: Spanish, English*, Latin, French Studies: German
| Message 3 of 36 15 April 2010 at 2:24am | IP Logged |
Delodephius wrote:
I don't use Serbian 99% of the time but I'm considered bilingual by everyone I know. Even I consider myself bilingual. However, I might as well consider myself trilingual since I speak English fluently. I actually wrote that in my college application. :-P |
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I see. I will label myself bilingual on the forum then.
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datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5585 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French
| Message 4 of 36 15 April 2010 at 3:26am | IP Logged |
If you are fluent, you are bilingual.
However don't get carried away. We have some kids at school that know 3 words in a language and their like I SPEAK [INSERT LANGUAGE]
One girl brags about what she knows... "I speak four languages, I'm so much smarter than everyone."
I said some simple German to her (Hey, what's up, whatcha doin' etc) She had no clue what I said and said "That doesn't even make sense." Yet I knew it did because all the rappers and TV people say it lol I just quitely laughed and went on...
I can read much better than I can speak (lack of natives in PA) but I feel that I have a pretty good skill. I certainly would be able to have everyday conversations (I'm probably not even close to your skill level.)
By the way, how did you make 68 posts in two days? :D
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Smart Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5339 days ago 352 posts - 398 votes Speaks: Spanish, English*, Latin, French Studies: German
| Message 5 of 36 15 April 2010 at 3:33am | IP Logged |
datsunking1 wrote:
If you are fluent, you are bilingual.
However don't get carried away. We have some kids at school that know 3 words in a language and their like I SPEAK [INSERT LANGUAGE]
One girl brags about what she knows... "I speak four languages, I'm so much smarter than everyone."
I said some simple German to her (Hey, what's up, whatcha doin' etc) She had no clue what I said and said "That doesn't even make sense." Yet I knew it did because all the rappers and TV people say it lol I just quitely laughed and went on...
I can read much better than I can speak (lack of natives in PA) but I feel that I have a pretty good skill. I certainly would be able to have everyday conversations (I'm probably not even close to your skill level.)
By the way, how did you make 68 posts in two days? :D
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My vocabulary in Spanish is huge. I know 4 or 5 words of Dutch. But I wouldn't say I KNOW Dutch :P
Oh I made all these posts because I am awesome :D
edit - rappers? Azad?
I love his songs :P
Edited by Smart on 15 April 2010 at 3:34am
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5381 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 6 of 36 15 April 2010 at 5:08am | IP Logged |
I think you are refering to being native in 2 languages. To which the answer would be
that you aren't. I can pretty much say that I am equally comfortable in English as I am
in French (my first language), even though I didn't learn English until I was a teenager,
but I'm not an English native and wouldn't label myself as such.
I always thought that the double asterisk on this site was reserved for people who were
natives in 2 languages. I don't think it denotes a near-native.
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Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5422 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 7 of 36 15 April 2010 at 5:18am | IP Logged |
datsunking1 wrote:
However don't get carried away. We have some kids at school that know 3 words in a language and their like I SPEAK [INSERT LANGUAGE]
One girl brags about what she knows... "I speak four languages, I'm so much smarter than everyone."
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Wow, in that case I'm right up there with Iversen. I know several random words from some languages.
I like this quote I saw from a comedian on Comedy Central
"Knowing multiple languages doesn't make you smart. You can still be an idiot and know 7 languages. It just means more people will understand that you're an idiot."
It's amazing how much you can learn from comedians sometimes.
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Smart Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5339 days ago 352 posts - 398 votes Speaks: Spanish, English*, Latin, French Studies: German
| Message 8 of 36 15 April 2010 at 5:45am | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
I think you are refering to being native in 2 languages. To which the answer would be
that you aren't. I can pretty much say that I am equally comfortable in English as I am
in French (my first language), even though I didn't learn English until I was a teenager,
but I'm not an English native and wouldn't label myself as such.
I always thought that the double asterisk on this site was reserved for people who were
natives in 2 languages. I don't think it denotes a near-native. |
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Bilingual/Trilingual area. Therefore, I am bilingual.
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