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| Levi Pentaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5565 days ago 2268 posts - 3328 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Italian | Message 9 of 21 27 May 2010 at 6:30am | IP Logged | ||
"Czech" isn't even the Czech spelling; it comes from Polish. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Derian Triglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5306 days ago 227 posts - 464 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Czech, French, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 10 of 21 27 May 2010 at 10:02am | IP Logged | ||
It was the opposite in my school. I remember how the children were constantly asking for some particular form and were confused that the same 'are' is used for almost all persons (the term you were missing). The Polish paradigm is: Singular: jestem, jesteś, jest, Plural: jesteśmy, jesteście, są The articles were a big struggle for everyone (definite vs. indefinite vs NONE!), but like someone's already said - the English tenses, especially the Perfect Tenses. This is something that we wouldn't even understand the purpose of, let alone being able to use it. It definitely took a while, and perhaps the longest, to master. Edited by Derian on 27 May 2010 at 3:02pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| mirab3lla Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom lang-8.com/220477Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5441 days ago 161 posts - 229 votes Speaks: Romanian*, EnglishC2, German Studies: Spanish, FrenchB1, Mandarin | Message 11 of 21 27 May 2010 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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Those phrasal verbs are just criminal!I can hardly remember them! All those prepositions...
And then, the tenses tend to amaze me, sometimes. But I guess that the beauty of a language stands in its difficulty (grammar, vocabulary and also pronunciation). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| John Smith Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6040 days ago 396 posts - 542 votes Speaks: English*, Czech*, Spanish Studies: German | Message 12 of 21 27 May 2010 at 4:26pm | IP Logged | ||
^^ I have no idea why it is spelt with a z. Czech people don't spell it with a z. We put a little mark above the c. So it's Cesko in Czech. No idea where the z came from. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Wise owl chick Senior Member Ecuador Joined 5316 days ago 122 posts - 137 votes Studies: English | Message 13 of 21 27 May 2010 at 5:11pm | IP Logged | ||
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I agree with Mirabella that phrasal versb are extremely difficult, and in English it's millions.
I find the pronunciation also very difficult therefore the listening and speaking. The words' stress and it seems the half of the words are not pronounced. The most difficult individual letters are : r, h, the difference between the short and long i, and like in German the exploding breathing after some consonants, and the vowels especially a, o, u. The tenses I find not very difficult excepted the progressives, this is because they're exactly as in Dutch, which I can speak very good. The articles are not a problem, only sometimes I'm not sure if you must say "the" or not. I find the questions very complicated, for example if you must say "do". I don't understand this structures. English's vocabulary is simple, mostly. This is because I can speak French, Dutch and German, and nearly all the vocabs in English are in one or more of this 3. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Derian Triglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5306 days ago 227 posts - 464 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Czech, French, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 14 of 21 27 May 2010 at 5:48pm | IP Logged | ||
@ Wise owl chick You should update your language profile. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| bela_lugosi Hexaglot Senior Member Finland Joined 6452 days ago 272 posts - 376 votes Speaks: English, Finnish*, Italian, Spanish, German, Swedish Studies: Russian, Estonian, Sámi, Latin | Message 15 of 21 28 May 2010 at 12:17am | IP Logged | ||
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In my case, phrasal verbs and idioms were probably the hardest part... The pronunciation wasn't that difficult to master. I've got a pretty good English accent, so everybody usually thinks I'm from the UK. :)
Slang and colloquial expressions can be quite tricky. My English students often find it difficult to understand (informal) spoken English because it's too fast and too many slang words or expressions are used. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| g.polskov Triglot Newbie Canada Joined 5250 days ago 37 posts - 50 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Portuguese | Message 16 of 21 09 July 2010 at 8:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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I learned it fairly young so I can't remember too much what was hard learning. I do know however what is still hard today pronounciation-wise and that has to be r's. Not every r but I would say succesive r sounds(*), or following some consonants(**).
Examples: (*) Where are, burrower (**) water, ladder, butter Those are the sounds that will usually give me away. I tend to do it too "ewwr" "awwr" 1 person has voted this message useful |
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