peterlin Tetraglot Groupie Poland peterlin.jzn.pl Joined 6415 days ago 54 posts - 58 votes Speaks: Polish*, Persian, English, Russian
| Message 25 of 30 29 July 2008 at 2:01am | IP Logged |
In Polish climate, no. In India, I am not sure. But that's beside the point, which is that leather-working and shoemaking is -in many cultures- very far from a 'decent' occupation. Having to deal with dead animals I guess.
As for shoemaking, apart from that 'dead animal' aspect there's this notion that feet soles are the lowest parts of the body also in a figurative sense, and that the shoes are always dirty etc. etc. Yuck. Remember the pictures from Baghdad where they would hit the Saddam statue's head with their shoes? That wasn't a sign of respect :)
So, shoemaker essentialy makes disgusting things from filthy material. Not a job you would like to take (if you live in one of those cultures, that is)
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chelovek Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6087 days ago 413 posts - 461 votes 5 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Russian
| Message 26 of 30 30 July 2008 at 3:24pm | IP Logged |
peterlin wrote:
Why not going back in the thread and browsing the site I gave you the link to? Or the two (out of the myriad available on the Internet) I'm linking to now?
Links:
http://matov.net.ru/
http://plutser.ru/mat
As for the actual usage - just google the word and browse the hits, you should get a feel of how it is used. If you can't figure it out yourself, than maybe you're not ready yet for non-standard Russian.
I don't think you'll be able to find anyone capable of giving you a sound grammatical overview of the word in question, unless you come across someone with degree in scatolinguistics. People just use it (or not), they rarely analyse it.
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On a unrelated note - yesterday I've read a paper on Hindi insults and apparently, ullu ('owl'; macron on the second u) or ullu ka bacca (owl's son) are words you can use to call someone stupid. Interesting, given all those western associations (owl = wisdom).
It is likewise an insult to call someone 'camar'='shoemaker', for more obvious reasons. |
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The people on WordReference were happy to help explain the nuances of ебать, actually.
I do like the Swearing Dictionary though...thanks.
Edited by chelovek on 30 July 2008 at 3:26pm
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ushrark Bilingual Diglot Newbie Netherlands Joined 5599 days ago 20 posts - 18 votes Speaks: English*, Dutch* Studies: French, German, Spanish, Russian
| Message 27 of 30 09 April 2010 at 9:14pm | IP Logged |
Enculés de flics !
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Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5422 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 28 of 30 10 April 2010 at 8:16am | IP Logged |
Here's some I know in Spanish (pretty much all of them from natives)
chingar-to f***
apparently joder and cujo mean the same?
pinche-f***ing
verga, mierda-shit
joto-faggot
puto-bitch/whore
bastardo-bastard
hijo de puta-son of a bitch
callate la boca-apparently means "shut the f*** up"
chinga te-f*** you
anda chinga te-go f*** yourself
pendejo-something along the lines of "dumbass"
That's all I can think of for now :\ I know more Spanish swearwords than colors. I always use them on my Hispanic friends, they normally say something back.
I can swear in about 3 more languages, even if it's just one word
German-Ficken-f***?
Mandarin-sounds something like gan/gon
Latin-damno tuum (I condemn you)
that's all I can remember right now...
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apatch3 Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6185 days ago 80 posts - 99 votes Speaks: Pashto, English* Studies: Japanese, FrenchA2
| Message 29 of 30 10 April 2010 at 8:30am | IP Logged |
Someone mind teaching me some french vulgarities? It's not exactly the kind of stuff they teach us in class ao I don't know anything except for "va au diable".
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Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5422 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 30 of 30 13 April 2010 at 6:46am | IP Logged |
Johntm wrote:
Here's some I know in Spanish (pretty much all of them from natives)
chingar-to f***
apparently joder and cujo mean the same?
pinche-f***ing
verga, mierda-shit
joto-faggot
puto-bitch/whore
bastardo-bastard
hijo de puta-son of a bitch
callate la boca-apparently means "shut the f*** up"
chinga te-f*** you
anda chinga te-go f*** yourself
pendejo-something along the lines of "dumbass"
That's all I can think of for now :\ I know more Spanish swearwords than colors. I always use them on my Hispanic friends, they normally say something back.
I can swear in about 3 more languages, even if it's just one word
German-Ficken-f***?
Mandarin-sounds something like gan/gon
Latin-damno tuum (I condemn you)
that's all I can remember right now... |
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Forgot to add these two:
French-merde-shit
Italian-merda-shit
:\ I'm not sure if it's good or bad that I know all this. I can swear in 7 languages if you count English.
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