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| SII Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5792 days ago 184 posts - 194 votes  Speaks: Russian* Studies: English | Message 9 of 14 14 April 2009 at 9:54pm | IP Logged | ||
ennime
Literary Russian is more strict than the spoken language. Although the word's order in Russian is free, in literary language usually the preferred order uses. But in spoken language it is the real mess: words stay in any position in sentence; between a noun and its attributes may appear other words; some words may be omitted, often "substitute" words use instead of the right, accurate words... So it isn't really difficult to learn literary Russian, but very difficult to learn Russian to perfection. MLSUSA94 If you will learn Russian even 15-30 min per day but every day, you can learn the language quite good. Edited by SII on 14 April 2009 at 10:00pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| MLSUSA94 Groupie United States linguisticventures19 Joined 5708 days ago 50 posts - 53 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, French | Message 10 of 14 14 April 2009 at 10:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have studied languages for 2+ hours before, so studying for three hours wouldn't be that hard for me.
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| SII Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5792 days ago 184 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Russian* Studies: English | Message 12 of 14 15 April 2009 at 10:31am | IP Logged | ||
Humbert
Yes, but, for example, English is very strict and "rigid" language in comparsion with Russian. Of course, English speech language isn't so strict as literary language, but English doesn't enable so liberty with word's order as Russian. Consequently the difference between speech and literary language is more in Russian and less in English. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| leonidus Triglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 6326 days ago 113 posts - 123 votes Speaks: Russian*, English, French Studies: German, Mandarin | Message 13 of 14 15 April 2009 at 12:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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In Russian there is a lot of implied meaning sometimes, and because Russian has a complex grammar, the word order is not very important, not important at all, except when you make it really twisted, you may sound a bit weird, but the meaning will not be lost. Complex grammar takes care of this problem. These points could make it difficult for language learners whose native languages have a less complicated grammar and more strict word order. So these two are on the opposite ends of the scale, and in different languages their weight is different, the goal is to convey the meaning. In Mandarin for example, the grammar is quite easy, but the word order is everything. Russian is vice versa.
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| guesto Groupie Australia Joined 5741 days ago 76 posts - 118 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 14 of 14 15 April 2009 at 12:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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What's the big fuss about loose word order? That's the least of my worries when speaking Russian...
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