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| GREGORG4000 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5523 days ago 307 posts - 479 votes  Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Japanese, Korean, Amharic, French | Message 9 of 90 08 April 2010 at 6:16am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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I personally wish English would be more Germaniccy.
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| Vinlander Groupie Canada Joined 5821 days ago 62 posts - 69 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 10 of 90 08 April 2010 at 6:43am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
I mean people that are actually attempting to learn a language not people that just speak English sorry about the confusion and i mean people younger than thirty. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Vinlander Groupie Canada Joined 5821 days ago 62 posts - 69 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 11 of 90 08 April 2010 at 7:01am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
It's just you.[/QUOTe/ You claim not to be big C well your just proving my point. Unless your jewish most if not all Europeans, 60 years ago had some link to a major church. You gotta realize how much of a change this is. About 90 percent of Euro North American's were born here that's fact not my opinion, most White American's consider themselves simply american, they have no link to any culture other than pop culture. Family structures, are falling apart it's large part of modern sociology. These are all demographic facts, not opinions, Our grand parents generation lived in a very different time than we do now there's no denial. The question is whether or not we feel a like there's a void to fill. I do believe we have a void and fill it in wierd and wacky ways, some feel the need to do yoga, become a muslim, do drugs, just buy a bunch of junk they don't need, or some just like to learn about other peoples cultures. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5677 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish | Message 12 of 90 08 April 2010 at 7:29am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
I don't follow. Yoga? Drugs(don't "Germanic people" like beer?)? 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Rabochnok Diglot Newbie Colombia Joined 5610 days ago 37 posts - 59 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Turkish, Persian | Message 13 of 90 08 April 2010 at 7:46am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
What are Turks, Albanians, and Bosniaks, chopped liver?
It can be pretty hard to feel a link to some country that you and the rest of your family hasn't lived in for generations.
Ah, the good old days, when people adhered to a particular family structure even if it didn't suit them.
Yeah, our grandparents lived in a very different time, and I believe that our time is far better, not perfect, but greatly preferable. And what exactly's weird and wacky about being a Muslim or doing yoga? And haven't people always bought useless junk that you/me think they don't need? Know what? I do have German heritage. I might not look straight out of Germany, but it's there. But honestly, I don't feel lots of admiration for Germans or other Germanic peoples. I don't have scorn for them, but I sure don't feel admiration. 5 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| unityandoutside Diglot Groupie United States Joined 6014 days ago 94 posts - 149 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Latin, Mandarin | Message 14 of 90 08 April 2010 at 8:41am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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I understand exactly what you're saying. I also feel a kind of irrational draw towards my Germanic roots, although it's not really a draw towards modern Germanic Europe in any way (except Iceland. I have a very strong irrational attraction to this country). In my opinion, Americans are just attracted to their 'roots' in general, not especially to Germanic ones unless they specifically are of Germanic descent.
I think that this stems from a few things. Americans today are obsessed with diversity, individualism, and that whole load. Our schools, media, and peers bombard us from childhood with the idea that we need to be unique, somehow different from everyone else, and that's what makes us valuable as a person. As a result, we tend to be focused on aspects of ourselves that separate us from our peers, such as heritage. Furthermore, we have problems with our identity as a nation. We don't really know what it means to be an American. Many are embarrassed or guilty about our history as a nation, and dissatisfied with the way we do things now. Media constructions of what a "true American" is are... distasteful. Despite our cultural lip service to diversity, America has an agressively normative face abroad, and at home our life is becoming more and more prefabricated, more and more about satisfying artificial, created needs, distracting us from our real needs and the real needs of humanity as a whole (you know that the world is strange when a bunch of people who can't even make their own food judge people as inadequate because they can't read books). So we're faced with an identity crises with no viable solution, and the psychological bent of it is that we end up doing things because we feel they make us different from all the "stupid, normal Americans." Anywaay, I could write about my country's situation at length, but this is a forum about learning languages, so I'll end it with a language point. I do often wish that English was a more "Germanic" language, but that's only because I'm attracted to languages that are rich with internal connections and combinations of native morphemes to create meaning. I feel that English, in abandoning it's roots in favor of loanwords, has lost some of the consistency and personal charm that makes languages interesting. I do love English, and I love what has been done with it and what can be done with it (mostly here I'm talking about literature), but this is because it's the carrier of my culture and the people I love. But if I could choose between what we have now, and a form of English with less Romance influence, I would choose the former without hesitation. A project I intend to pursue in the future is to construct a language with a similar structure to English (with a tiny bit more inflection), but then build up the vocabulary by using combinations of Germanic morphemes taken from modern English, in a way akin to the way words are built in Russian, German, Latin, or any other typical Indo-European language, really. Edited by unityandoutside on 08 April 2010 at 8:47am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Vinlander Groupie Canada Joined 5821 days ago 62 posts - 69 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 15 of 90 08 April 2010 at 4:19pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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[QUOTE=Rabochnok] [QUOTE=Vinlander]
What are Turks, Albanians, and Bosniaks, chopped liver? You know what i mean white americans were mostly christian aside from jews, 60 years ago, if not please find some famous white muslim non converts in american culture It can be pretty hard to feel a link to some country that you and the rest of your family hasn't lived in for generations. If you agree with my statement whats your point? Ah, the good old days, when people adhered to a particular family structure even if it didn't suit them. Of course not everyone was better off but I think your disconnected from the fact we live in a very bizzare time. People hardly know their parents, or their grandparents. and have no connections to their cousins. I mean unless you spend some time in a country with high birth rates you really arent gonna get what i mean. Yeah, our grandparents lived in a very different time, and I believe that our time is far better, not perfect, but greatly preferable. And what exactly's weird and wacky about being a Muslim or doing yoga? You say our time is greatly better, well obviously modern tech is better and same with the fact that were richer. But aside from that, how are you better off, personally not african american's, not women, i mean you. There's nothing wrong with being a devoted muslim, however white people make it the flavour of the week religion. They only learn about islam because they hate chritians because there so closed minded, then there shocked when they find out arabs are not so liberal as them, are not so found of many liberal values we take for granted. It's so funny to hear liberals who hate everything about our past when the exact same things are major players in the muslim world(please don't talk about this unless you experienced the muslim world). And haven't people always bought useless junk that you/me think they don't need? HMmm never thought about that my grand parents forgot to mention what kind of credit cards they max'd out, however i remember when they built there home that they owed their uncle about a grand for a year. Know what? I do have German heritage. I might not look straight out of Germany, but it's there. But honestly, I don't feel lots of admiration for Germans or other Germanic peoples. I don't have scorn for them, but I sure don't feel admiration. You can't tell me there an epidemic of depression and unhappiness rates in north america. At the same time it's caused by our selfish culture. If you talk to anyone over 25 there gonna mention this void feeling, it's a very real thing. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| minus273 Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5765 days ago 288 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, EnglishC2, French Studies: Ancient Greek, Tibetan | Message 16 of 90 08 April 2010 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
But that brought us "handbook", which is a great word indeed! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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