Honest Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5317 days ago 89 posts - 92 votes Speaks: Arabic (Gulf)*, English
| Message 1 of 14 16 June 2010 at 5:31pm | IP Logged |
Are my following sentences grammatically correct:
If there is a new idea, it should have been built off an existed one.
2- Students should read already existed ideas and build off them.
3- I'm pretty sure that that idea was already mentioned.
I think I have to repeat "that" twice!
Edited by Fasulye on 16 June 2010 at 7:36pm
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GREGORG4000 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5522 days ago 307 posts - 479 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Japanese, Korean, Amharic, French
| Message 2 of 14 16 June 2010 at 7:23pm | IP Logged |
Here is how I would write them:
1. If there is a new idea, it should be built off an existing one.
2. Students should build off already existing ideas.
3 is perfect
Edited by GREGORG4000 on 16 June 2010 at 7:24pm
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Derian Triglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5307 days ago 227 posts - 464 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Czech, French, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 3 of 14 16 June 2010 at 7:47pm | IP Logged |
GREGORG4000 wrote:
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Yup. The expression "[to] read ideas" doesn't make much sense. An idea per se is not a form of text, therefore it cannot be read.
You could just add that the ideas are known:
"Students should build off already existing and known ideas."
But it's redundant as the sentence without it already implies that those ideas are known.
Edited by Derian on 16 June 2010 at 7:54pm
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Honest Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5317 days ago 89 posts - 92 votes Speaks: Arabic (Gulf)*, English
| Message 4 of 14 16 June 2010 at 10:05pm | IP Logged |
That is clear to me now. thanks all!
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publius Newbie United States Joined 5299 days ago 7 posts - 10 votes
| Message 5 of 14 17 June 2010 at 3:58am | IP Logged |
Honest wrote:
I think I have to repeat "that" twice! |
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Not necessarily. "That" is often omitted when used as a conjunction (the first "that" in your sentence), especially in casual writing or speech. In fact, the sentence quoted above has an omitted "that": I think (that) I have to repeat "that" twice!
Here's a blog post with good tips on when to leave out "that":
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/when-to-leave-out-that. aspx
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Honest Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5317 days ago 89 posts - 92 votes Speaks: Arabic (Gulf)*, English
| Message 6 of 14 17 June 2010 at 11:32am | IP Logged |
Great tips! thanks!
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6010 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 7 of 14 17 June 2010 at 4:18pm | IP Logged |
I would build on, not off.
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Slovak_anglo Diglot Groupie United States facebook.com/deliver Joined 5344 days ago 87 posts - 100 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Italian, Slovak
| Message 8 of 14 17 June 2010 at 6:13pm | IP Logged |
Okay, so here is how you really say it, you need to use the word of.
So your sentences should be:
If there is a new idea, it should have been built off of an existed one.
2- Students should read already existed ideas and build off of them.
^^those are right, maybe not the way I would word them, but they are correct
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