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| Honest Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5317 days ago 89 posts - 92 votes  Speaks: Arabic (Gulf)*, English | Message 1 of 11 26 June 2010 at 5:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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Is there a comma after "students" in 1 and 2?
1- I believe that students issues with plagiarism need to be looked at. 2-What are the problems behind the students' plagiarism? Is this correct: plagiarized or plagiarizes? The parents should be investigated if their son plagiarized. Edited by Fasulye on 27 June 2010 at 2:16pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Declan1991 Tetraglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6438 days ago 233 posts - 359 votes Speaks: English*, German, Irish, French | Message 2 of 11 26 June 2010 at 8:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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You mean an apostrophe? ' = apostrophe , = comma.
The first doesn't make perfect sense to me, but it should be, "I believe that students' issues with plagiarism need to be looked at" because there is more than one student. It isn't very clear what you mean in the second one either, but it's a grammatical sentence, perfectly punctuated. ... if their son plagiarizes (well I'd say plagairises but that's because I'm Irish not American). Edited by Declan1991 on 26 June 2010 at 8:06pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| RedBeard Senior Member United States atariage.com Joined 6101 days ago 126 posts - 182 votes Speaks: Ancient Greek* Studies: French, German | Message 3 of 11 26 June 2010 at 9:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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As Declan1991 wrote, 1 is correct if you make "students" into "students'"
and 2 is correct, but awkward. (Do you mean: What kind of issues/problems would cause a student to plagiarize?) Number 3 would be PLAGIARIZED if you only caught him once and otherwise he seems to be a good student. It would be PLAGIARIZES if you believe that he has a constant problem with it or has been caught several times. Edited by RedBeard on 27 June 2010 at 1:27am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| psy88 Senior Member United States Joined 5590 days ago 469 posts - 882 votes Studies: Spanish*, Japanese, Latin, French | Message 4 of 11 27 June 2010 at 1:17am | IP Logged | ||
This sentence could be correct if you used an apostrophe as in "I believe that student's issues with plagiarism needs to be looked at". This would mean that you are saying that a particular student has issues with plagiarism that need to be looked at.For example, You are concerned because John has been caught repeatedly in acts of plagiarism or similar behaviors.You believe that we need to look at his issues. Of course it really depends on what you were trying to say. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| zekecoma Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5343 days ago 561 posts - 655 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish | Message 5 of 11 27 June 2010 at 1:58am | IP Logged | ||
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I thought for example the ' is showing possession. I don't think it's showing possession
in that sense. When I was younger, I remember the English teachers told me that 's s' is just a way to say "<word> is", if that's true it wouldn't make since in that sentence. I believe it'd be better to remove the ' from students as it is plural and not indicating possession. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ALS Senior Member United States Joined 5803 days ago 104 posts - 131 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian, Finnish, Russian | Message 6 of 11 27 June 2010 at 3:03am | IP Logged | ||
Er, yes it is showing possession. "Students' issues". Student's is one student with possession of something. Students is multiple students without possession. Students' is multiple students with possession. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Declan1991 Tetraglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6438 days ago 233 posts - 359 votes Speaks: English*, German, Irish, French | Message 7 of 11 27 June 2010 at 2:01pm | IP Logged | ||
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Not really. It's showing the genitive case which occurs with possession, but also when two nouns come together. It could be rephrased to "the issues of the students". There has to be an apostrophe there for the sentence to be grammatically correct. I don't speak any Arabic, but it's the same in Irish, German and French.
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| Honest Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5317 days ago 89 posts - 92 votes Speaks: Arabic (Gulf)*, English | Message 8 of 11 27 June 2010 at 2:17pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks! Sorry I meant apostrophe! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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