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Honest
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Message 9 of 11

27 June 2010 at 2:19pm | IP Logged

RedBeard wrote:

As Declan1991 wrote, 1 is correct if you make "students" into "students'"
and 2 is correct, but awkward. (Do you mean: What kind of issues/problems would cause a student to plagiarize?)

Number 3 would be PLAGIARIZED if you only caught him once and otherwise he seems to be a good student. It would be PLAGIARIZES if you believe that he has a constant problem with it or has been caught several times.

I took the second sentence from the middle of my paper. So I think it will make sense if it is seen within a context.

For 3, I tried to put a rule; I wasn't talking about one specific incident!

Edited by Honest on 27 June 2010 at 2:27pm
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Honest
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Message 10 of 11

27 June 2010 at 2:21pm | IP Logged

psy88 wrote:

Honest wrote:

Is there a comma after "students" in 1 and 2?

1- I believe that students issues with plagiarism need to be looked at.

This sentence could be correct if you used an apostrophe as in "I believe that student's issues with plagiarism needs to be looked at". This would mean that you are saying that a particular student has issues with plagiarism that need to be looked at.For example, You are concerned because John has been caught repeatedly in acts of plagiarism or similar behaviors.You believe that we need to look at his issues. Of course it really depends on what you were trying to say.

Thanks for this detailed explanation :)
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Declan1991
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Message 11 of 11

27 June 2010 at 5:20pm | IP Logged

Honest wrote:

I took the second sentence from the middle of my paper. So I think it will make sense if it is seen within a context.

It's more that it's awkward as someone else said. We would probably rephrase it to what problems are caused by plagiarism by students, or in another possible sense, what problems cause students to plagarise.

Oh and I think we forgot to clarify the rule for you, if it's one anything (the girl's coat, the student's issue, the student's repord), the apostrophe goes before the s. If it belongs to more than one person, it goes after (hence the students' reports). The only exceptions are its (because it's = it is), nouns with different plural forms (men's hats, children's books) and mass nouns (the people's voice).

Edited by Declan1991 on 27 June 2010 at 5:20pm

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