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| Kary Groupie Canada Joined 6151 days ago 85 posts - 113 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: French, Spanish, German | Message 1 of 5 28 June 2010 at 6:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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I was wondering if anyone here has done a comparison of different "tenses" of verbs in German, Spanish and French. By tense in this context, quite improperly, I mean the whole tense/mood/aspect/etc.
I know you can't directly equate a tense from one language with another, but I've been trying to get a rough picture. Unfortunately, I'm most familiar the French, somewhat familiar with Spanish and pretty clueless with German. It doesn't help that different sources use different naming conventions. So far for French, I have identified 26 tenses, but that is including infintif, participe présent, participe passé, futur proche, passé simple, and passé récent. For Spanish, I think I've identified twenty-one tenses; for German, nineteen. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 budonoseito Pro Member United States budobeyondtechnRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5807 days ago 261 posts - 344 votes Studies: French, Japanese Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 5 28 June 2010 at 6:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think this is where the 501 XXXX Verb books come in handy. I just got the French and
Japanese versions. They go over all tenses for each verb. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Kary Groupie Canada Joined 6151 days ago 85 posts - 113 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Spanish, German | Message 3 of 5 28 June 2010 at 7:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have an older version for German - only seventeen tenses with limited explanations and not identifying the German names, making it more difficult to research further. My newer version for Spanish covers eighteen tenses and uses Spanish names (although not exactly matching with RAE). I don't have a French version, but that's fine as I have other sources. I also have the Schaum's Outlines: German Grammar but, again, only English names and a reduced set of tenses. Edited by Kary on 28 June 2010 at 7:30pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5671 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 4 of 5 28 June 2010 at 7:58pm | IP Logged | ||
By great coincidence, I was reading the latest edition of Barron's 501 French Verbs as I noticed this thread. It states there are fourteen tenses in French - seven of which are simple, and seven of which are compound (i.e. the seven simple tenses with avoir or etre added). Of course, other books give different totals: my biggest french grammar book (Advanced French Grammar by Monique L'Huillier) claims their are twenty two tenses. So, it all depends what you count as a tense. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Spiderkat Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5814 days ago 175 posts - 248 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Russian | Message 5 of 5 28 June 2010 at 9:02pm | IP Logged | ||
Just an extra information to this. These are the tenses you will find in the famous Bescherelle. Indicatif (temps simple) - présent, imparfait, passé simple, futur simple (temps composé) - passé composé, plus-que-parfait, passé antérieur, futur antérieur Subjonctif (temps simple) - présent, imparfait (temps composé) - passé, plus-que-parfait Impératif (temps simple) - présent (temps composé) - passé Conditionnel (temps simple) - présent (temps composé) - passé 1re forme, passé 2e forme Participe (temps simple) - présent (temps composé) - passé Infinitif (temps simple) - présent (temps composé) - passé Those called "passé récent" and "futur proche" are not tenses but simply syntaxic forms which already existed decades ago and were recently added by a few people to the list of tenses, and are formed by using a conjugated extra verb to the infinitive form. And the one called gérontif is simply the participle form with the preposition "en". 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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