robsolete Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5385 days ago 191 posts - 428 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin
| Message 81 of 94 25 March 2010 at 2:30pm | IP Logged |
I very much agree with this. After only studying for a month or so, I've started reading French news media and it is a huge help for recognizing the most common words.
The only caveat I add is my hesitation to start reading a large volume of text before my 'inner pronunciation' is at least decently accurate. If you read 1,000,000 words but are pronouncing them wrong in your head, I think it could harm you in the long term because you'll build up bad associations with how certain words ought to sound. So ironically the thing holding me back from reading more is verbal pronunciation, because I want to know I have it down before I start flooding my brain with input.
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doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5986 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese
| Message 82 of 94 25 March 2010 at 2:36pm | IP Logged |
This is exactly why I use audiobooks along with the text, if at all possible.
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s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5430 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish
| Message 83 of 94 28 March 2010 at 6:47am | IP Logged |
I would just like to add that spoken language is much more repetitious than written language, especially literature. Whereas 2000 to 3000 words would allow you to read Harry Potter, everyday conversations require much less, probably something closer to 1000.
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Kugel Senior Member United States Joined 6538 days ago 497 posts - 555 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 84 of 94 31 March 2010 at 7:02pm | IP Logged |
The article fails to mention the simple fact that generations, as a whole, are increasingly upping the standard when
it comes to intelligence.
As for vocab, well, unless you're doing legal or philosophical work, being precise isn't a matter of being smart or
stupid. Any other line of work has its own jargon, making mandated vocab lists in school a pointless task.
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cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5838 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 85 of 94 31 March 2010 at 11:20pm | IP Logged |
Splog wrote:
UK teenagers have an active vocabulary of 800 words (and a passive vocabulary of up to 40,000 words): Teenspeak |
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Schools vary so much in the UK though. Some are excellent (usually private but not always) and some are just dumps. But a lot of British children have (and use) much better vocabulary than that.
However, it certainly seems that you've best pay up for private, or become an incredlibly pushy parent to get your kid into a good state school (or watch on in desperation as they become ruined for life).
I read an interesting article saying that some of the top students in the USA today are "home schooled". The benefits is that it allows the kid to study at his own pace, according to a methodology that suits him and away from negative peer pressure and the general junk culture that prevails in schools there.
Of course, this only works if a suitable adult is available to organise the home-schooling.
Something that's very obvious from the UK league tables (school ratings) is that single-sex schools are definitely preferable, particularly for girls. How ironic that they are banned in my country (Sweden).
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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5669 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 86 of 94 01 April 2010 at 9:51am | IP Logged |
cordelia0507 wrote:
I read an interesting article saying that some of the top students in the USA today are "home schooled". The benefits is that it allows the kid to study at his own pace, according to a methodology that suits him and away from negative peer pressure and the general junk culture that prevails in schools there.
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One of the advantages of being home-schooled is that you have parents with a strong and active interest in your education. Most kids who go to regular school get no help from their parents once they return home. The few children I knew whose parents spent time with them after school going over lessons and homework did very well.
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apatch3 Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6185 days ago 80 posts - 99 votes Speaks: Pashto, English* Studies: Japanese, FrenchA2
| Message 87 of 94 09 April 2010 at 1:26am | IP Logged |
Single Sex schools are slightly inhumane at a certain age if you ask me.
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brian91 Senior Member Ireland Joined 5444 days ago 335 posts - 437 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 88 of 94 09 April 2010 at 7:52pm | IP Logged |
I'm learning the most common three thousand German words at the moment, and I hope I will be able to ask native
speakers about the White Rose in Munich when I go there.
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