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Pyx
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 Message 49 of 94
21 March 2010 at 11:40am | IP Logged 
PaulLambeth wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:

Now ... I struggle to find people who speak Icelandic natively other than online. Those I know online are teenagers and it often annoys me that I see a lot of English phrases seeping into their Facebook statuses and messages to each other. [...]

You don't see any irony in being annoyed at how native speakers of the language that you're learning are communicating with each other? ;)


Haha, yes, I suppose I do ;) I shouldn't complain about people wishing to express how impressively bilingual they can be as teenagers.

Really my annoyance is only driven by the fact that finding Icelanders to communicate with in realtime is difficult enough without seeing "awesome" popping up instead of whatever Icelandic variation of the word "great" should be most appropriately used.

Just treat 'awesome' as an Icelandic word. It's not like you'd complain about German using all those Greek words, or Japanese with their annoying fixation on Chinese roots, right? If natives say 'awesome' in a particular situation, then this is the most appropriate word, not whatever word Icelandic has for 'great'. Just sayin' :)
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PaulLambeth
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 Message 50 of 94
21 March 2010 at 11:49am | IP Logged 
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:

Now ... I struggle to find people who speak Icelandic natively other than online. Those I know online are teenagers and it often annoys me that I see a lot of English phrases seeping into their Facebook statuses and messages to each other. [...]

You don't see any irony in being annoyed at how native speakers of the language that you're learning are communicating with each other? ;)


Haha, yes, I suppose I do ;) I shouldn't complain about people wishing to express how impressively bilingual they can be as teenagers.

Really my annoyance is only driven by the fact that finding Icelanders to communicate with in realtime is difficult enough without seeing "awesome" popping up instead of whatever Icelandic variation of the word "great" should be most appropriately used.

Just treat 'awesome' as an Icelandic word. It's not like you'd complain about German using all those Greek words, or Japanese with their annoying fixation on Chinese roots, right? If natives say 'awesome' in a particular situation, then this is the most appropriate word, not whatever word Icelandic has for 'great'. Just sayin' :)


Alright, that does make sense. I suppose an English equivalent may be our adoption of modern French words that seems quite natural to me. I do still think it's mainly teenagers wishing to express their ability at English although my conversation with Icelandic adults is even more limited. Point taken. Ta :)
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Pyx
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 Message 51 of 94
21 March 2010 at 11:54am | IP Logged 
PaulLambeth wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:

Now ... I struggle to find people who speak Icelandic natively other than online. Those I know online are teenagers and it often annoys me that I see a lot of English phrases seeping into their Facebook statuses and messages to each other. [...]

You don't see any irony in being annoyed at how native speakers of the language that you're learning are communicating with each other? ;)


Haha, yes, I suppose I do ;) I shouldn't complain about people wishing to express how impressively bilingual they can be as teenagers.

Really my annoyance is only driven by the fact that finding Icelanders to communicate with in realtime is difficult enough without seeing "awesome" popping up instead of whatever Icelandic variation of the word "great" should be most appropriately used.

Just treat 'awesome' as an Icelandic word. It's not like you'd complain about German using all those Greek words, or Japanese with their annoying fixation on Chinese roots, right? If natives say 'awesome' in a particular situation, then this is the most appropriate word, not whatever word Icelandic has for 'great'. Just sayin' :)


Alright, that does make sense. I suppose an English equivalent may be our adoption of modern French words that seems quite natural to me. I do still think it's mainly teenagers wishing to express their ability at English although my conversation with Icelandic adults is even more limited. Point taken. Ta :)

Could be, of course, but you explicitely wrote "[in] their Facebook statuses and messages to each other", that's why I wrote what I wrote. If they just want to show off their English to you though, I see why you'd find that annoying.

PS: I find it hilarious whenever I hear German words which are commonly used in English. Like 'kindergarten' or 'volkswagen' (or, of course, the ubiquitous 'Oktoberfest' *sigh*)

Edited by Pyx on 21 March 2010 at 11:56am

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Volte
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 Message 52 of 94
21 March 2010 at 12:10pm | IP Logged 
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:

Now ... I struggle to find people who speak Icelandic natively other than online. Those I know online are teenagers and it often annoys me that I see a lot of English phrases seeping into their Facebook statuses and messages to each other. [...]

You don't see any irony in being annoyed at how native speakers of the language that you're learning are communicating with each other? ;)


Haha, yes, I suppose I do ;) I shouldn't complain about people wishing to express how impressively bilingual they can be as teenagers.

Really my annoyance is only driven by the fact that finding Icelanders to communicate with in realtime is difficult enough without seeing "awesome" popping up instead of whatever Icelandic variation of the word "great" should be most appropriately used.

Just treat 'awesome' as an Icelandic word. It's not like you'd complain about German using all those Greek words, or Japanese with their annoying fixation on Chinese roots, right? If natives say 'awesome' in a particular situation, then this is the most appropriate word, not whatever word Icelandic has for 'great'. Just sayin' :)


Alright, that does make sense. I suppose an English equivalent may be our adoption of modern French words that seems quite natural to me. I do still think it's mainly teenagers wishing to express their ability at English although my conversation with Icelandic adults is even more limited. Point taken. Ta :)

Could be, of course, but you explicitely wrote "[in] their Facebook statuses and messages to each other", that's why I wrote what I wrote. If they just want to show off their English to you though, I see why you'd find that annoying.

PS: I find it hilarious whenever I hear German words which are commonly used in English. Like 'kindergarten' or 'volkswagen' (or, of course, the ubiquitous 'Oktoberfest' *sigh*)


It's the zeitgeist.

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Pyx
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 Message 53 of 94
21 March 2010 at 12:25pm | IP Logged 
Volte wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:

Now ... I struggle to find people who speak Icelandic natively other than online. Those I know online are teenagers and it often annoys me that I see a lot of English phrases seeping into their Facebook statuses and messages to each other. [...]

You don't see any irony in being annoyed at how native speakers of the language that you're learning are communicating with each other? ;)


Haha, yes, I suppose I do ;) I shouldn't complain about people wishing to express how impressively bilingual they can be as teenagers.

Really my annoyance is only driven by the fact that finding Icelanders to communicate with in realtime is difficult enough without seeing "awesome" popping up instead of whatever Icelandic variation of the word "great" should be most appropriately used.

Just treat 'awesome' as an Icelandic word. It's not like you'd complain about German using all those Greek words, or Japanese with their annoying fixation on Chinese roots, right? If natives say 'awesome' in a particular situation, then this is the most appropriate word, not whatever word Icelandic has for 'great'. Just sayin' :)


Alright, that does make sense. I suppose an English equivalent may be our adoption of modern French words that seems quite natural to me. I do still think it's mainly teenagers wishing to express their ability at English although my conversation with Icelandic adults is even more limited. Point taken. Ta :)

Could be, of course, but you explicitely wrote "[in] their Facebook statuses and messages to each other", that's why I wrote what I wrote. If they just want to show off their English to you though, I see why you'd find that annoying.

PS: I find it hilarious whenever I hear German words which are commonly used in English. Like 'kindergarten' or 'volkswagen' (or, of course, the ubiquitous 'Oktoberfest' *sigh*)


It's the zeitgeist.

I know, and people have to accept that, instead of saying that the way people use their language is kaput!
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Volte
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 Message 54 of 94
21 March 2010 at 12:53pm | IP Logged 
Pyx wrote:
Volte wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:
Pyx wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:

Now ... I struggle to find people who speak Icelandic natively other than online. Those I know online are teenagers and it often annoys me that I see a lot of English phrases seeping into their Facebook statuses and messages to each other. [...]

You don't see any irony in being annoyed at how native speakers of the language that you're learning are communicating with each other? ;)


Haha, yes, I suppose I do ;) I shouldn't complain about people wishing to express how impressively bilingual they can be as teenagers.

Really my annoyance is only driven by the fact that finding Icelanders to communicate with in realtime is difficult enough without seeing "awesome" popping up instead of whatever Icelandic variation of the word "great" should be most appropriately used.

Just treat 'awesome' as an Icelandic word. It's not like you'd complain about German using all those Greek words, or Japanese with their annoying fixation on Chinese roots, right? If natives say 'awesome' in a particular situation, then this is the most appropriate word, not whatever word Icelandic has for 'great'. Just sayin' :)


Alright, that does make sense. I suppose an English equivalent may be our adoption of modern French words that seems quite natural to me. I do still think it's mainly teenagers wishing to express their ability at English although my conversation with Icelandic adults is even more limited. Point taken. Ta :)

Could be, of course, but you explicitely wrote "[in] their Facebook statuses and messages to each other", that's why I wrote what I wrote. If they just want to show off their English to you though, I see why you'd find that annoying.

PS: I find it hilarious whenever I hear German words which are commonly used in English. Like 'kindergarten' or 'volkswagen' (or, of course, the ubiquitous 'Oktoberfest' *sigh*)


It's the zeitgeist.

I know, and people have to accept that, instead of saying that the way people use their language is kaput!


Ja... Jawohl. It is genau so.

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Pyx
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 Message 55 of 94
21 March 2010 at 1:06pm | IP Logged 
Volte wrote:

Ja... Jawohl. It is genau so.

Do people really say that sometimes, or is that interference from your German studies? :)
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Volte
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 Message 56 of 94
21 March 2010 at 1:07pm | IP Logged 
Pyx wrote:
Volte wrote:

Ja... Jawohl. It is genau so.

Do people really say that sometimes, or is that interference from your German studies? :)


It's an exaggeration. I've heard people use all of these in English, but not so many at once.

Edit: I should clarify - I mean native or native-level English speakers, some of whom speak no German, and excluding native German speakers.


Edited by Volte on 21 March 2010 at 1:08pm



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