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| Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5426 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 33 of 42 30 March 2010 at 9:58pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6015 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 34 of 42 30 March 2010 at 11:41pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
What is B2? This forum only accepts certified courses as proof, and you're unlikely to pass the exams without studying. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6015 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 36 of 42 31 March 2010 at 7:43pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
What example? Being one of the approximately 2% of the world's population with a natural knack for doing this? Sorry, but it's too late to be born a second time with different genes and in a different environment.--- 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5474 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 37 of 42 31 March 2010 at 10:29pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Yeah, I agree. As I said earlier, there are ways of learning languages that don't require study but still do require intellectual effort, although a lot of people wouldn't recognize that as it is "natural" effort, just like when a child learns their native language (not to say that the processes are exactly the same). I don't know how you work, Bao, but I'd guess a lot of exposure, reading and conversation? Edited by joanthemaid on 31 March 2010 at 10:30pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5474 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 38 of 42 31 March 2010 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
A1-A2-B1-B2-C1-C2 are the levels of the Common European Framework of Reference (for languages). A lot of institutes, schools and universities deliver B2 certificates all over Europe and it's the level you need to enter undergraduate university in any given country if your native language isn't the one spoken where you're studying and you haven't passed this country's high school graduation exams. I'd say B2 is a far from perfect but totally operational level and I'd say that's "basic fluency" according to this forum's classification. And if a language test is well made enough, yes, you should be able to pass the exams without studying or following a course. It tests your level in the language, not whether you've followed a particular course. Of course not everyone can be in conditions where they don't need to study at all (although I think past a certain level you can progress with an all-passive+ conversation method, I can't see how anyone could go from beginner to intermediate in an unrelated language without studying at all except if they're actually in the country and someone is willing to gesticulate a lot at them.) But going from B1 to B2 can perfectly be done without conventional studying. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Aineko Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 5452 days ago 238 posts - 442 votes Speaks: Serbian*, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin | Message 39 of 42 01 April 2010 at 12:22am | IP Logged | ||||||||
more I think about this, more it seems to me that when we are talking about 'gift for languages, we are actually talking about two things which are not specific only for language learning - IQ and enthusiasm. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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