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Saif
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 Message 17 of 36
01 April 2010 at 4:30am | IP Logged 
It will be tough, but I'd like my kids to be trilingual with English, French and Arabic.
My first priority is for them to have an excellent command of English for academic
reasons. Arabic would be second for cultural reasons. And I hope French can be squeezed
in there somehow. No pressure on them though! =) I'd have to come up with a reasonable
system to achieve this.
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Arekkusu
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 Message 18 of 36
01 April 2010 at 4:37am | IP Logged 
Parents want to communicate with their children in the best way possible, so that they
can do the best job they can as parents. Which is why, imho, it's unrealistic to expect
that we will speak to our kids in a language other than our mother tongue, except when
the person has an inferiority complex towards their native language.
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LauraM
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 Message 19 of 36
01 April 2010 at 5:18am | IP Logged 
That may be a bit judgmental to say someone should speak only in their mother tongue to their child and if not,
they have a complex towards their native language...HUH???? Or are you just kidding? I mean...seriously? They
shouldn't teach them any other language? Wow! I have to admit, I've never heard such a thing....
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Arekkusu
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 Message 20 of 36
01 April 2010 at 5:35am | IP Logged 
I never said you shouldn't -- I said it's unrealistic, as in highly unlikely to actually
happen. But if you can teach your child a second language which is also your second
language, then all the power to you.

As for the complex, I was referring to people I know who actually chose not to teach
their children their native language, and who instead aligned with the spouse's language.
The kids are monolingual.
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annette
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 Message 21 of 36
01 April 2010 at 6:20am | IP Logged 
My parents both speak multiple languages, and initially they had hoped to raise me
multilingual. In the end, it didn't really work out. We were felled mostly by our
respective neuroses re: language inferiority, cultural identity, etc, but another huge
factor was that my parents were not always able to provide sufficient practice and/or
consistent input. As a result, I forgot much of what I used to know. For example, I
have whole diaries written in French, a language my father is easily fluent in, but I
no longer understand ANY of that. I also found myself confusing languages a lot and I
still occasionally let slip non-English words into daily conversation by unhappy
accident. I also have an inconsistent accent - I would say that I sound pretty normal
for my hometown about 98% of the time but there are certain words and phrases that I
picked up from one parent or the other, one language or the other, and that does
interfere sometimes with making myself understood. But now I'm getting off topic.

I have a friend who grew up trilingual but her situation was pretty unique. Her father
was a native speaker of English and her mother was a native speaker of Chinese.
Unfortunately, the father did not speak much Chinese and the mother did not speak much
English, so the parents actually had to communicate in Japanese. I think French was
involved at some point (paternal grandparent), but she's only passable in that
language.
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LauraM
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 Message 22 of 36
01 April 2010 at 7:15am | IP Logged 
Arkkusu, I think I understand what you are saying now. Although I imagine there may be many different reasons a
parent might not speak their native tongue to their children and not necessarily a complex. I do believe that if a
parent is fluent in any language, it is wise to expose their children to that language, be it thier native language or a
foreign language.

One of my best friends is from Brazil, her husband from Sweden, yet they are raising their two daughters in
America. By 4 years old each child was fluent in all three languages (Portuguese, English, Swedish). By 6, they don't
confuse ANY of the languages...it is what prompted me to throw caution to the wind and use any German I can
remember with my children. I think/thought it AMAZING!!!! And wonderful!!!

I have forgotten lots of the language and my processing is painfully slow with adult conversation, but I think once I
begin a course of study, it will come back quickly...I am happy to have been exposed when I was younger.
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John Smith
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 Message 23 of 36
01 April 2010 at 9:03am | IP Logged 
Teaching a child more than two languages at the same time before the age of five is wrong. It's unethical because the child doesn't have a choice. I grew up with two languages. I am grateful but sometimes I wish I wasn't bilingual. I hate mixing the two languages and having a slight accent. Plus the two languages are always fighting in my head for dominance. They aren't equal. For example I prefer counting in one, talking about my home life in the other. It's very frustrating sometimes.

LauraM wrote:
By 4 years old each child was fluent in all three languages (Portuguese, English, Swedish). By 6, they don't
confuse ANY of the languages...


How can you be so sure? Do you speak fluent Portuguese, English and Swedish?

Edited by John Smith on 01 April 2010 at 9:06am

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elvisrules
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 Message 24 of 36
01 April 2010 at 10:05am | IP Logged 
Unethical to teach a young child multiple languages? ...
If they are taught properly (same people always speaking the same language to the child, for example the father one language, the mother another, and a third at daycare/school) then the child will have no problems. I was at an international school for years and know many children who grew up multilingual.


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