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Po-ru
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 Message 1 of 8
15 June 2010 at 6:33am | IP Logged 
I am at that rough level of Japanese where I am between intermediate and advanced. I
recognize that the only way to get to that next level is to push through the difficult
vocab, break apart songs and anime episodes line by line, actually start learning
kanji(being self-taught this was one area I greatly neglected), and so forth.

I need advice on two things:

1.I have been riding the trains a lot lately to work and so forth and need something to
put on my iPod in Japanese that will help me remember vocabulary and just generally be
hearing and listening to the language. Something like Pimsleur would be awesome but
unfortunately I finished the whole Pimsleur about a year ago.

2.I need an anime or cartoon show aimed for younger kids. I have mainly been watching
Bleach to study but a lot of times they use a lot more advanced phrases and I can't
hear a lot of the words which they say when they talk quick. Many times my Japanese
friends cannot even identify the exact meaning of the sentence. I am looking for
something a bit more "childish", but I am really not sure what.


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TixhiiDon
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15 June 2010 at 7:39am | IP Logged 
Hi Po-ru, I'm not sure about stuff for your iPod but I think the two very famous Sunday night anime series' "Chibi Maruko-chan" and "Sazae-san" are both great for intermediate learners as the characters tend to speak very clearly using quite simple Japanese. I'm not sure whether the series' were originally aimed at kids but pretty much the whole of Japan tunes in at 6pm on a Sunday evening, giving rise to so-called "Sazae-san syndrome", where office workers get depressed on a Sunday evening at the thought of work the next day.

I've just checked on Amazon.jp and although there doesn't seem to be any DVDs for Sazae-san, there are lots for Chibi Maruko-chan. I'm sure there must be plenty of extracts on YouTube too.
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ericspinelli
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15 June 2010 at 8:29am | IP Logged 
Japanese has a rich and varying vocabulary that will be difficult to master without becoming literate. Even ignoring the fact that you are also attempting to learn Mandarin, learning kanji should be high on your priority list.

For listening, because you also have Korean on your list, I recommend tuning into to チョアヨ!韓国, a podcast for learning Korean. Both hosts are native Japanese speakers and they spend much of the show talking in Japanese. It's clear, natural, and conversational and neither of them speaks very fast. Who knows, you might even learn some Korean. 一石二鳥

EDIT: It looks like ChinesePod also has (or had) a Japanese version. 二石三鳥?

Edited by ericspinelli on 15 June 2010 at 8:36am

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Lucky Charms
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15 June 2010 at 9:29am | IP Logged 
1. I don't know how you feel about Japanesepod101.com, but I use it just for the Audio Blogs (which include non-scripted commentary in the current season) and ignore everything else. If you edit out the annoying intro/closing (you can download Audacity for free to edit mp3 files simply) it will be 100% Japanese.

Also, audiobooks are awesome. When you're at home, read along with the transcript. When you're on the train or just doing whatever around the house, have it playing in the background anyway - the same small section over and over until you have it down. There are a ton listed in this thread - scroll down to sheetz's post, and there's also a description of how to download them to your PC a few posts below that. See page 1 of that thread as well for the rest of the collection.

What I've found that's even better than audiobooks is the Read Real Japanese series (they have a Japanese essays version and a Japanese fiction version.) They are short, unedited Japanese writings along with the recordings by a professional actor and a literal translation of each and every phrase on the facing pages, dual-language reader style, PLUS a glossary in the back explaining all the idioms and cultural references that are hard to look up on your own (there is also a normal glossary of all the vocabulary as well as an explanation of every grammatical form introduced in each piece, though your level might be a bit high to make much use of these. Yes, they packed all these features into these tiny paperback books - I almost felt like TOO much effort and loving care went into them!)

Also, I haven't got around to trying it out yet, but I recently learned that you can download YouTube videos in MP3 format using this converter, and upload the audio file into your iPod. This seems like an indespensible tool for language learning, so I'm really excited to find out how it works!

2. I don't watch much anime, so I can't make very many recommendations here, but one I've started studying from recently is called らき☆すた . If you can get past the ridiculous (and I mean really ridiculous) opening theme, the episodes themselves consist of high school girls chit-chatting to each other about various everyday topics in conversational Japanese. They speak clearly (unless they're angry or excited), and you may find it easier to understand and study from than some other anime with more outlandish themes. Partial transcripts of each episode are available here.

Best of luck to you!!

Edited by Lucky Charms on 15 June 2010 at 9:40am

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Captain Haddock
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15 June 2010 at 11:59am | IP Logged 
Doraemon's reasonably entertaining as far as children's anime goes. One Piece is interesting too.

At the point where you are, though, you really need to shore up your kanji. Any of the numerous JLPT and kanji
study guides available should be sufficient.
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genini1
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15 June 2010 at 8:53pm | IP Logged 
Lucky Charms wrote:

Also, I haven't got around to trying it out yet, but I recently learned that you can download YouTube videos in MP3 format using this converter, and upload the audio file into your iPod. This seems like an indespensible tool for language learning, so I'm really excited to find out how it works!

Best of luck to you!!

The newest version of realplayer also allows you to download videos from youtube and convert them to mp3 or keep them as video which is nice if you have an ipod video.
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Po-ru
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16 June 2010 at 5:40am | IP Logged 
genini1 wrote:
Lucky Charms wrote:

Also, I haven't got around to trying it out yet, but I recently learned that you can
download YouTube videos in MP3 format using this
converter
, and upload the audio file into your iPod. This seems like an
indespensible tool for language learning, so I'm really excited to find out how it works!

Best of luck to you!!

The newest version of realplayer also allows you to download videos from youtube and
convert them to mp3 or keep them as video which is nice if you have an ipod
video.


I have the newest version of real player. How exactly do I do that?
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genini1
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16 June 2010 at 5:49pm | IP Logged 
Po-ru wrote:
genini1 wrote:
Lucky Charms wrote:

Also, I haven't got around to trying it out yet, but I recently learned that you can
download YouTube videos in MP3 format using this
converter
, and upload the audio file into your iPod. This seems like an
indespensible tool for language learning, so I'm really excited to find out how it works!

Best of luck to you!!

The newest version of realplayer also allows you to download videos from youtube and
convert them to mp3 or keep them as video which is nice if you have an ipod
video.


I have the newest version of real player. How exactly do I do that?

When you go to the website with the video(such as youtube) mouse over the video and in the tip right a pop up comes up that says download this video. Do that and on the realplayer downloader that pops up whenever you download there's an option to convert videos.


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