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| translator2 Senior Member United States Joined 6919 days ago 848 posts - 1862 votes  Speaks: English* | Message 1 of 45 24 February 2010 at 8:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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Google’s Real-Time Voice Translator Could Make Any Language Lingua Franca
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| minus273 Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5765 days ago 288 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, EnglishC2, French Studies: Ancient Greek, Tibetan | Message 2 of 45 24 February 2010 at 9:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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Cool!
If they succeeded in making some near-perfect text-to-text translator, they can develop "intonation recognizer" and a more nuanced TTS. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ManicGenius Senior Member United States Joined 5481 days ago 288 posts - 420 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, French, Japanese | Message 3 of 45 24 February 2010 at 10:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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Unlikely in my opinion. If you're simply trying to ONLY have touristy talks or business situations, it's possible that this would work fine.
Personally for me, having an in-depth and personal discussion with someone would lose the breadth and depth of the conversation if I had to wait for my Trekky translator to do all the work. That and... well... good luck with idioms Google. New ones get created daily in most languages that I can think of. 7 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| OlafP Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5435 days ago 261 posts - 667 votes Speaks: German*, French, English | Message 4 of 45 24 February 2010 at 11:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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Enter Andrew (A), Bernadette (B), Google Real-Time (G), TransModules en2fr (GF), fr2en (GE)
A: Hi Bernadette. How are things? GF: Salut Bernadette. Comment ça va ? B: Salut Andrew. Très bien. GE: Hi Andrew. Very well. A: I'm just calling to ask whether there are any news about what we discussed last week. GF: Je n'appele que pour demander s'il y a quelques nouvelles sur ce que nous avons discuté la semaine dernière. A: Did you receive my e-mail? GF: Avez-vous reçu mon e-mail ? B: Oui, je vous ai ... ehm ... je t'ai déjà repondu. GF: Pardon, Madame. Google ne vous a pas compris. Merci de répéter ce que vous avez dit. B: Oui, je t'ai déjà repondu. G: to itself: setLanguageLevel(ON_FAMILIAR_TERMS) GE: Yes, I've already responded to you. A: Oh, great. Let me check my inbox... GF: Ah, grandiose. Laisse-moi vérifier ma boîte de réception. A: Yes, here it is. I don't understand the second sentence. GF: Oui, le voici. Je ne comprends pas la deuxième phrase. A: Looks like this was translated by this freaky Google tool. G: to itself: logIncident(HOSTILE_CUSTOMER, getUserID("Andrew")) (break) A: Bernadette? Are you still there? GF: Bernadette ? Es-tu encore là ? B: Oui, je suis là. GE: Yes, I follow there. A: Sorry? What do you mean by "I follow there"? GE: Sorry Mister. Google didn't understand you. Please repeat what you just said. A: I said: What do you mean by "I follow there"? G: to itself: logForReview(INCOMPREHENSIBLE, "I said what do you mean by I follow there.") GF: Je disait quoi tu signifie par moi suivre là. B: Hein ? Je crois que Google ait défiguré ton message. Peux-tu le répéter ? G: to itself: logIncident(HOSTILE_CUSTOMER, getUserID("Bernadette")) (break) A: Hello? GF: Allô ? B: Quoi ? GE: What? A: Well, forget about it. Do you think we can sign the contract by the end of the week? GF: Alors, oublie-le. Penses-tu que nous pouvons signer le contrat par la fin de la semaine ? B: Tu veux dire jusqu'à la fin de cette semaine-ci ? GE: You want to say until the end of this week here? B: Il faut que l'on parle à Phillipe. GE: It is necessary that one talks to Phillipe. A: One? Who do you mean? GF: Un ? Qui signifies-tu ? B: to herself: Le mec me rend folle! -- Phillipe ! G: to itself: logIncident(FURIOUS_CUSTOMER, getUserID("Bernadette")) GE: Phillipe! A: Yes, but I mean the other guy you were talking about. GF: Oui, mais je signifie l'autre type tu as parlé. B: Je n'ai parlé à personne ! GE: I didn't talk to anyone! A: to himself: This girl drives me nuts! -- Now, Bernadette, we don't get anywhere this way. G: to itself: logIncident(FURIOUS_CUSTOMER, getUserID("Andrew")) GF: Maintainant, Bernadette, nous n'obtenons pas quelque part par ici. (break) B: Je suis désolée, Andrew. Je ne comprends pas ce que tu veux me dire. GE: I'm sorry, Andrew. I don't understand what you want to say to me. A: Okay, don't worry. I'll get all my stuff wrapped up and give it to John. GF: C'est bon, ne t'inquiète pas. Je vais obtenir toutes mes choses enveloppées et le donne à John. A: Talk to you later. Bye. GF: Parle à toi plus tard ! Au revoir. A: hangs up; aside: Dammit. I blew it up! G: to itself: alert(SIS, TERRORIST, getUserID("Andrew")) B: Au revoir. hangs up; aside: Merde, je l'ai bousillé! G: to itself: alert(POLICE, MURDERER, getUserID("Bernadette")) Exeunt. edit: typos and formatting Edited by OlafP on 26 February 2010 at 11:34pm 27 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| minus273 Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5765 days ago 288 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, EnglishC2, French Studies: Ancient Greek, Tibetan | Message 5 of 45 24 February 2010 at 11:40pm | IP Logged | ||
You're divine! Edited by minus273 on 24 February 2010 at 11:40pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Saif Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5612 days ago 122 posts - 208 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Levantine)*, French | Message 6 of 45 24 February 2010 at 11:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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LOL that was great OlafP. :D
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| translator2 Senior Member United States Joined 6919 days ago 848 posts - 1862 votes Speaks: English* | Message 7 of 45 25 February 2010 at 12:00am | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, OlafP, that was wonderful.
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| MineAlways Newbie United States Joined 5500 days ago 8 posts - 14 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 8 of 45 25 February 2010 at 12:34am | IP Logged | ||
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I have use a real time translator for text online in second life.
I think it could be done for voice as well. My good friend is from Brazil and speaks Portuguese. We use a translator to type to each other She types something in her language and it translates in mine. I have to say there are only a few times where I have been left wondering what she was trying to say and mostly it is for spelling inaccuracy. On my part I must remember to use standard English and not common internet chatter. So given that this application could handle speech irregularities. I think it would at least give a good bases to have a conversation. Today I was talking with my friend about languages. She thought I should learn Portuguese and she should learn English. We had a very in depth conversation on languages including if we should both learn Esperanto. Both of us understood perfectly what the other was saying all with the help of a scripted instant translator. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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