Master Moron Newbie United States Joined 5583 days ago 19 posts - 20 votes
| Message 1 of 21 03 April 2010 at 8:01am | IP Logged |
So, I've heard many people say that the Spanish r is pronounced completely differently than the English r. But, I've been studying Spanish for about a year and it sounds nearly identical to me. Will anybody really notice if someone uses the English pronunciation of r when speaking Spanish? I sure haven't noticed anything unusual when listening to native Spanish speakers speaking English. Their pronunciation of r doesn't seem to affect the pronunciation of English words at all.
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goosefrabbas Triglot Pro Member United States Joined 6367 days ago 393 posts - 475 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: German, Italian Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 21 03 April 2010 at 8:11am | IP Logged |
I'm sure someone would notice if you used the English 'r' while speaking Spanish. Spanish uses both alveolar taps and trills, while English uses more of a liquid. When I taught ESL many of the students used the tap which usually sounded cute, but it never affected a conversation.
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Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5421 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 3 of 21 03 April 2010 at 8:22am | IP Logged |
Look it up on youtube or this forum, there are a thousand threads on this. Search "How to make the Spanish R" and you'll learn the difference, and how to make the Spanish R
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victor-osorio Diglot Groupie Venezuela Joined 5431 days ago 73 posts - 129 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian
| Message 4 of 21 05 April 2010 at 4:10am | IP Logged |
What some people here called a "gringo" (a derogative way of saying American) is easily
recognised by the way they pronounce the R and the O. The R the English-speakers make
doesn't really hit the top of the mouth, the Spanish R does. It's not easy to explain, at
least to me, you have to pay attention when you hear it and try to imitate.
This is a good start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuAuZe61sSY
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Cebeel Diglot Groupie United States Joined 6559 days ago 51 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 5 of 21 07 April 2010 at 6:35am | IP Logged |
If a Spanish-speaker hears you say "Minnesota" he would write that "minesora." Maybe that will help a bit.
Edited by Cebeel on 07 April 2010 at 6:35am
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Master Moron Newbie United States Joined 5583 days ago 19 posts - 20 votes
| Message 6 of 21 17 April 2010 at 10:22pm | IP Logged |
victor-osorio wrote:
What some people here called a "gringo" (a derogative way of saying American) is easily
recognised by the way they pronounce the R and the O. The R the English-speakers make
doesn't really hit the top of the mouth, the Spanish R does. It's not easy to explain, at
least to me, you have to pay attention when you hear it and try to imitate.
This is a good start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuAuZe61sSY |
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So, if English speakers can't tell when Spanish speakers pronounce r the wrong way, how can Spanish speakers tell when English speakers pronounce it the wrong way?
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Silvance5 Groupie United States Joined 5493 days ago 86 posts - 118 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, French
| Message 7 of 21 17 April 2010 at 10:27pm | IP Logged |
Master Moron wrote:
victor-osorio wrote:
What some people here called a "gringo" (a derogative way of saying American) is easily
recognised by the way they pronounce the R and the O. The R the English-speakers make
doesn't really hit the top of the mouth, the Spanish R does. It's not easy to explain, at
least to me, you have to pay attention when you hear it and try to imitate.
This is a good start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuAuZe61sSY |
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So, if English speakers can't tell when Spanish speakers pronounce r the wrong way, how can Spanish speakers tell when English speakers pronounce it the wrong way? |
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I can easily tell when a Spanish speaker pronounces an English "R" with an alveolar roll or alveolar tap. It's a pretty noticeable difference. However, if you haven't learned the difference between the two, it's far more difficult to notice. Look up a video on how to do the Spanish "R" and you'll notice the difference immediately.
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hypersport Senior Member United States Joined 5880 days ago 216 posts - 307 votes Studies: Spanish
| Message 8 of 21 17 April 2010 at 10:28pm | IP Logged |
If you can't here it, then you're speaking it full on gringo.
To anyone who speaks Spanish well, it's obvious when it's done right and wrong, and when done wrong, it's grating. Painful to listen too.
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