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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6010 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes  Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 9 of 21 17 April 2010 at 11:31pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Well most English-speakers would at least notice that a Spanish speaker was talking a bit funny, but more than that, there are two R sounds in Spanish. If you can't pronounce a Spanish R, you can't pronounce the difference, so they won't know if you're saying "but" or "dog". 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Luk Triglot Groupie Argentina Joined 5334 days ago 91 posts - 127 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English, French Studies: Italian, German, Mandarin, Greek | Message 10 of 21 20 April 2010 at 11:21pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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they are completely different! I'm a native Spanish speaker and I can maybe give you a tip:
when you Americans do your "r" your tongue stays in the middle of your mouth, when we do our "r" the tip of the tongue touches the palate, with the soft "r" (I don't its name in English) it touches it once, with the other "r", a couple of times (very fast). I think the closest sound you have is the onomatopoeia of the sound that cats make: Purr I hope that helped you. ¡Suerte! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Master Moron Newbie United States Joined 5583 days ago 19 posts - 20 votes | Message 11 of 21 02 May 2010 at 1:52am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Oh, but I actually can pronounce the rr sound. It's not perfect yet, but I've at least have a place to start. So, basically, I pronounce the r in pero the way I would pronounce the r in English, whereas the rr in perro I would pronounce with a rolling sound, or close to a rolling sound, anyway. So, no, I don't think one would confuse which word I was talking about, as one would have a roll, and one wouldn't.
Okay, so basically, the r is kind of like the rr, only you roll it less? So, you kind of do a rr, but breath less? Well, that gives me a place to start, I guess. But, I still don't know how you can tell the difference between an English and a Spanish r. As a rr without the roll sounds very similar to an English r to me. Edited by Master Moron on 02 May 2010 at 1:52am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| mspen1018 Triglot Newbie United States Joined 5330 days ago 36 posts - 44 votes Speaks: English, German, Sign Language Studies: Persian, Spanish | Message 12 of 21 25 May 2010 at 12:09am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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the Bavarian dialekt has a variety of types of rolled "r's" so I got the r and the rr right off.
the way I picked up the deep in the throat Farsi letters was by acting like I was mocking it. I didn't get it when I was trying but once I was sarcastic I got it right off... that might help. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cebeel Diglot Groupie United States Joined 6559 days ago 51 posts - 60 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 13 of 21 25 May 2010 at 5:57am | IP Logged | ||||||||
This technique has helped me, too! hahahahaha especially for intonation! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5333 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 14 of 21 25 May 2010 at 6:43am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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[QUOTE=Master Moron] Okay, so basically, the r is kind of like the rr, only you roll it less? So, you kind of do a rr, but breath less? Well, that gives me a place to start, I guess. QUOTE]
Now you've got it. Though as someone who have learned both English and Spanish as foreign langueages, I can assure you that there is a VAST difference.Using an American R makes you stand out like a sore thumb. I must admit that so far I thought that the reason why Americans would use their own R, was that they didn't care to do anything about it, or that they simply weren't able to. It never ocurred to me that you couldn't hear the difference - like some Asians struggle with the difference between L and R. May I ask, is that generally perceived as a problem for Americans? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Guido Super Polyglot Senior Member ArgentinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6527 days ago 286 posts - 582 votes Speaks: Spanish*, French, English, German, Italian, Portuguese, Norwegian, Catalan, Dutch, Swedish, Danish Studies: Russian, Indonesian, Romanian, Polish, Icelandic | Message 15 of 21 25 May 2010 at 8:15am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Just for fun: Spanish eRRe
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| Luk Triglot Groupie Argentina Joined 5334 days ago 91 posts - 127 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English, French Studies: Italian, German, Mandarin, Greek | Message 16 of 21 04 June 2010 at 12:00am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I've just realized that I totally missed a word there: "I don't KNOW its name in English".
Sorry One more thing that might help: "r" it's similar to the "flap t" in American English, like in the word "better" or "Natalie" watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obWc-etdHTY&feature=channel I believe that the difference lays in the way that you move your tongue after its touches your palate, in the Spanish soft r, your tongue gets back to its initial position without doing anything else. Try to acknowledge how your tongue moves as you do your English r, that would help you to be aware of the differences. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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