Tyr Senior Member Sweden Joined 5785 days ago 316 posts - 384 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish
| Message 1 of 4 29 May 2010 at 4:27pm | IP Logged |
In learning kanji I've noticed a oddity which I'm not understanding.
One book tells me doctor is a kanji with the needle element next to specialist. But then slime forest tells me its a arrow in a house.
Why the two different kanji?
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Kubelek Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland chomikuj.pl/Kuba_wal Joined 6855 days ago 415 posts - 528 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishC2, French, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 2 of 4 29 May 2010 at 4:41pm | IP Logged |
博士 はかせ/はくし Dr (title), phd. I've only seen はかせ, but wakan gave me two readings. Sorry, I don't know the difference.
医者 いしゃ, 医者さん いしゃさん doctor (physician, medical doctor)
Keywords are an aid, they will help you (in my opinion), but you shouldn't trust them completely. If you're doing Heisig check common words with characters you're studying to see if you understood the keyword correctly - 'Dr' is a classic example of why you should do it.
Edited by Kubelek on 29 May 2010 at 4:46pm
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6771 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 3 of 4 29 May 2010 at 4:50pm | IP Logged |
博士 as in a Ph.D. or doctorate holder is normally pronounced はくし.
The 医 in 医者 means "medical". You also see it in words like 医学 (medicine) and 医院 (clinic).
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Tyr Senior Member Sweden Joined 5785 days ago 316 posts - 384 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish
| Message 4 of 4 29 May 2010 at 4:53pm | IP Logged |
Ahh!
Right thanks, makes sense. This wasn't made clear at all, it was the Helsig book I was looking at and it was speaking of a medical doctor with the specialist one.
The line of thinking I was guessing was that one was some kind of honorific for a doctor whilst the other was the actual word for a doctor. Totally off base!>
Edited by Tyr on 29 May 2010 at 4:54pm
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