Slovak_anglo Diglot Groupie United States facebook.com/deliver Joined 5344 days ago 87 posts - 100 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Italian, Slovak
| Message 1 of 12 04 June 2010 at 8:58pm | IP Logged |
Is it worthwhile to learn French so you can use Assimil, I realize there are are a few Assimil programs in English, but there is such a vast collection in French. This is another one of my opinion questions ;)
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Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5676 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish
| Message 2 of 12 04 June 2010 at 9:05pm | IP Logged |
Not if you didn't already want to learn French and just needed an extra reason. It takes
a great deal of fluency to learn a language through a language which you have just
learned. I suspect it might take a year or so of speaking good French before one might
be comfortable using it to access other languages.
Edited by Paskwc on 04 June 2010 at 9:07pm
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vikramkr Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6068 days ago 248 posts - 326 votes Speaks: English*, Portuguese
| Message 3 of 12 04 June 2010 at 11:05pm | IP Logged |
Yes, if you like French. If you don't like French, the journey would not be pleasant, and therefore would not be worth it.
Personally, one of the reasons why I'm learning French is so I can use Assimil programs, but I love the language in itself and was always planning on learning it anyway.
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maaku Senior Member United States Joined 5573 days ago 359 posts - 562 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 4 of 12 05 June 2010 at 2:41am | IP Logged |
Access to Assimil is the reason I am studying French now. But French was already on my list for other reasons, and if that was not the case I don't think I would have the motivation to finish.
Frankly, it would take longer to learn French well enough to use as a base language than it is worth, if that's your only reason to learn French.
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onebir Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7162 days ago 487 posts - 503 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin
| Message 5 of 12 05 June 2010 at 3:01am | IP Logged |
"I suspect it might take a year or so of speaking good French before one might
be comfortable using it to access other languages."
Perhaps this is true if Assimil is the only source you use. But if you've already used some other materials, this background plus the progressive nature of Assimil can take you most of the way to understanding the dialogs. Then Google translate &/ a native speaker can fill in the gaps.
I've found this to be the case with Assimil Hebrew, after some work on TY, most of Colloquial & an abortive attempt with FSI Hebrew a while back. The Assimil dialogues are also funny/interesting enough to bear repeated listening.
Edited by onebir on 05 June 2010 at 3:05am
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ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5480 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew
| Message 6 of 12 05 June 2010 at 3:15pm | IP Logged |
Does anyone think using French only Assimil programs before you are fluent is a bad idea?
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6438 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 7 of 12 05 June 2010 at 4:17pm | IP Logged |
ruskivyetr wrote:
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Depends what you mean by a bad idea. I've tried, and my French isn't fluent. It's significantly less effective, but still better than most approaches.
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RedBeard Senior Member United States atariage.com Joined 6101 days ago 126 posts - 182 votes Speaks: Ancient Greek* Studies: French, German
| Message 8 of 12 05 June 2010 at 7:32pm | IP Logged |
I saw another post around here that addressed part of this topic. It indicated that one would need both a basic Assimil French course and then the advanced course to attain the level of French necessary "springboard" to the next language. This means you're (approximately) a year away from studying the next language. Like the others above, I think that if you are interested in knowing French anyway (and can wait 6-12 months for your next language) then sure! Why not?
I tried to use my (quite bad) knowledge of French to use an Assimil book for Esperanto studies. I quit after just a few lessons. It felt like toil. (Heh, Assimil joke...) It felt like too much work when there is already so much good (and free) Esperanto material out there. Perhaps one could plow through it this way, but it was not enjoyable, so I stopped.
-RedBeard
P.S. I am now the proud owner of Assimil French With Ease, Day By Day Method, 1982. So maybe I'll restart my French Studies. :-)
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