datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5584 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French
| Message 1 of 8 15 December 2009 at 12:18am | IP Logged |
I just bought a 7 language dictionary for $4.00 and "German: Made Simple (1965 ed) for $6.00 off of Amazon. They are used, but why buy them new? Same material, someone has just already read it :)
I'm very very excited. The dictionary has Russian, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, and Hebrew. I plan to study at least 5 of these languages, if not 6 (french) and there's 20k words with example sentences for some of the words :)
WOO!
-Jordan
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cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5837 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 2 of 8 15 December 2009 at 2:04am | IP Logged |
Hold your horses young man.... ;-) Five languages simultaneously is too much unless you are a certified genius with unlimited time. I'd like to see you succeed and become fluent in a couple more languages. The way to achieve it is to not take on more than you can realistically handle and to finish what you started. I recommend you to stick with the ones you have started, until you can go to the Göthe institute and pass an advanced German exam and get a certificate that you are fluent. Same with Portuguese.
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^veganboy^ Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5918 days ago 51 posts - 51 votes
| Message 3 of 8 15 December 2009 at 2:12am | IP Logged |
Would you be so kind as to submit the ISB number? :D
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datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5584 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French
| Message 4 of 8 15 December 2009 at 2:21am | IP Logged |
Veganboy- Here are the ISB codes
ISBN-10: 0517057956
ISBN-13: 978-0517057957
cordelia, I'm not studying 5 at the same time :D this dictionary just contains all of the languages that I want to study throughout my life :)so I figured why not buy it?
The 2,000 most common words in the language are in bold, and the others are just in regular print. I'm really excited
I'm focusing on just German and portuguese at the moment :) Spanish too, my Spanish is at a pretty high level, I just need to fix little things and build on my fluency. :D
-Jordan
Edited by datsunking1 on 15 December 2009 at 2:23am
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pookiebear79 Groupie United States Joined 6029 days ago 76 posts - 142 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Swedish, Italian
| Message 5 of 8 15 December 2009 at 5:57am | IP Logged |
Hey, that dictionary sounds very intriguing. I may have to pick up a copy just out of curiosity, even though there are 2 languages in it that I have no intention of ever studying and one that I haven't touched since college and have no plans at this time to take back up with.
Is that 20,000 words for each of the languages? If so, I imagine it must be very heavy (or have very tiny print...or both!) Still, I think I need to consider getting a copy of that. Thanks for the isbn/info on it.
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fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7145 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto
| Message 6 of 8 15 December 2009 at 9:07am | IP Logged |
cordelia0507 wrote:
Hold your horses young man.... ;-) Five languages simultaneously is too much unless you are a certified genius with unlimited time. I'd like to see you succeed and become fluent in a couple more languages. The way to achieve it is to not take on more than you can realistically handle and to finish what you started. I recommend you to stick with the ones you have started, until you can go to the Göthe institute and pass an advanced German exam and get a certificate that you are fluent. Same with Portuguese. |
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Why should you have to complete a language until you can pass an exam? I can get by in more than a dozen languages but I could only pass an exam for half a dozen or so. I am quite happy with that. I can read literature in the languages and get news from the Internet and that is all I need.
I am still taking on new languages and courses for my own pleasure. I don't have to prove myself to anyone. I enjoy learning the languages.
I buy languages from "opportunity shops" and second hand shops and have got some great bargains. Linguaphone Portuguese for $7, Spanish Linguaphone for $20 and Italian for $10. I got French in Action for $15 complete with books, video and audio and Colloquial Indonesian for $5. I got Keren, an Indonesian course with book and CDRom for $2.
I am not yet ready to learn Portuguese but I don't mind having the materials ready.
I bought some of the above courses from "opportunity" shops and some from Amazon and eBay. I would encourage anyone to buy the materials as they find them. You might not have the chance again.
I passed up the chance to buy Lewis Robbins Spanish For Travellers for $3.25 and only got the chance to buy it again this year for ten times the price. I always regretted not buying the course as I learnt Italian in just two weeks with Italian For Travellers, and that was sufficient to get by on an Italian ship and when we stayed in Italy. I wouldn't pass an exam but it was sufficient for my purposes. And I like watching Italian movies on television.
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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5668 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 7 of 8 15 December 2009 at 9:44am | IP Logged |
fanatic wrote:
Why should you have to complete a language until you can pass an exam? I can get by in more than a dozen languages but I could only pass an exam for half a dozen or so. I am quite happy with that. I can read literature in the languages and get news from the Internet and that is all I need.
I am still taking on new languages and courses for my own pleasure. I don't have to prove myself to anyone. I enjoy learning the languages.
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What beautiful comments, which I agree with completely. I think of language learning as like sports or learning a musical instrument.
I will never be a world champion runner, but am pretty good at running (won a few competitions in my time) - yet at the same time I love long distance cycling. Some of my running friends warn me it will affect different muscles in the wrong way and impact my running, but who cares? I am doing it for the pure enjoyment.
Same with guitar: I play classical guitar, with occasional dips into rock. One of my classical guitar friends is much better than I will ever be and tells me that I am destroying my focus by wasting time on rock. So what? I love doing it!
And turning now to language learning. I have a few main languages I focus on - I would say I am pretty much fluent in Czech, and can now just about get by (with a few hiccups) in Russian and to a lesser degree in French. I work hard on all of these languages ever day except Sunday.
At the same time, I spend a little time most days on Mandarin, Spanish, and German. A couple of times a week I dip into Japanese, Arabic, and Vietnamese. Then once in a blue moon I toy with a few other languages whenever the mood strikes. Sure, most of these "dabble" languages will never get to any high degree of fluency but it really doesn't matter. The sheer fun of dabbling in them is pure bliss.
Edited by Splog on 15 December 2009 at 9:48am
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BartoG Diglot Senior Member United States confession Joined 5446 days ago 292 posts - 818 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Latin, Uzbek
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Thanks for fanatic's review of Lewis Robins. I found Spanish for Travelers for $2.50 and running through the phrases made for a great review, especially for reminding myself of the subjunctive and imperative.
Note that there's no grammar discussion. A beginner can use these to master 360 phrases or an advanced learner can use them to see the most common grammatical features of daily language in use. (Combining this with a two-disc Michel Thomas set would be a great way to pick up the barest bones of a language in a very short time.)
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