Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6582 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 17 of 24 19 February 2010 at 12:44pm | IP Logged |
Violence.
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vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6960 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese
| Message 18 of 24 19 February 2010 at 1:50pm | IP Logged |
Car Lichtraush , io pense que le tu demanda es no dicite bene . Proquè "universal" significa de le "universe" e nos humanos no sape le linguas que on parle in le altere planetas de tote l'universe .Pote es Pleyadiano o Martiano o Saturniano....Qui sape?
nos no sape quantos es le extra-terra eseres qui vive fora de le terra.
Si tu vole parle de le lingua plus comprendite de plus personas de la terra , in le sense que es comprendite aunque si illos no le parle. poterea ser:
1)musica 2)sexo 3)sentimento 4)mover le manos pro entender le unos le alteres
si tu vole parle linguas parlate e comprendite de plus personas io pense que es anglese proquè
si un chinese e un arabe encontran e no parle le uno le lingua de l'altere probabilmente illos va a parler anglese
ora le lingue plus international parlate e comprendite es l'anglese . de facto hic , ci in iste sito de linguas on scribe principalmente in anglese.
Esperanto es international e neutral ma si tu no le ha studiato no le comprende.
Io ora scribe in interlingua que es le moderne latine que derive directamente de latine classic . le unic lingua franca de le mundo europeo ancestre .
Le unic lingua que multe personas pote comprende interlingua aunque si no le habe studiato. Inferlicemente es pauc deffundite
Ma la veritas es que le lingua universal no existe proquè si no no existerea sitos pro aprender lingua como iste . salutes
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Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5422 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 19 of 24 20 February 2010 at 6:06am | IP Logged |
Journeyer wrote:
Another possible one is the thumbs up for "OK" in many cultures. |
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In ancient Roman times, a thumbs up from a crowd in a gladiator match meant they wanted the gladiator killed (presumably because he wasn't entertaining to watch). I wonder how this turned into the modern meaning of thumbs up?
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Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5422 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 20 of 24 20 February 2010 at 6:07am | IP Logged |
Violence not only works across languages and cultures, but across different levels of intelligence. If someone doesn't understand the words "Please leave me alone" they will understand a broken jaw :)
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Journeyer Triglot Senior Member United States tristan85.blogspot.c Joined 6868 days ago 946 posts - 1110 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German Studies: Sign Language
| Message 21 of 24 20 February 2010 at 6:21am | IP Logged |
Johntm, I don't know either. I just looked for some answers at Wiki, but rather than clarifying the answer, it just gives some examples in different cultures or eras.
Like you, I've always assumed it was related to the Romans. However, after briefly skimming at the article, I started to wonder if it has developed independently in many cultures, given that it's a simple gesture.
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kyssäkaali Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5553 days ago 203 posts - 376 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish
| Message 22 of 24 21 February 2010 at 5:05pm | IP Logged |
Journeyer wrote:
That's just one example. Another possible one is the thumbs up for "OK" in many cultures. It is "Time to surface" in scuba diving sign language. I don't know about other cultures per se, but I'm always afraid to try it, for fear it would mean something vulgar. |
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It means "sit on this" in the middle east XD
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Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6582 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 23 of 24 21 February 2010 at 5:26pm | IP Logged |
Johntm wrote:
In ancient Roman times, a thumbs up from a crowd in a gladiator match meant they wanted the
gladiator killed (presumably because he wasn't entertaining to watch). I wonder how this turned into the modern
meaning of thumbs up? |
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I think it's the other way around, isn't it? That thumb's up meant the gladiator should be spared and thumb's down
means he should be killed. If so, it's easy to imagine how it could be generalized to "OK, great, all's fine and
dandy", while thumb's down is "not good".
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Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5422 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 24 of 24 22 February 2010 at 6:39am | IP Logged |
Journeyer wrote:
Johntm, I don't know either. I just looked for some answers at Wiki,
but rather than clarifying the answer, it just gives some examples in different cultures
or eras.
Like you, I've always assumed it was related to the Romans. However, after briefly
skimming at the article, I started to wonder if it has developed independently in many
cultures, given that it's a simple gesture. |
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Maybe it's not from the Romans, I
remember hearing that story although I don't know from where.
@Ari
The way I've heard it told is that they wanted the gladiator beheaded
I guess somehow it got bastardized along the way
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