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Oasis88
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 Message 1 of 13
27 February 2010 at 11:00am | IP Logged 
Hi everyone.

At the moment I'm currently finishing my final year of my education degree and have
started to think about what it would be like to become a Spanish teacher. Now, apart
from a few weeks of formal classes, I've never received any "formal" Spanish education
myself and therefore have next to nothing that I can use to prove that I actually speak
the language. This has become a bit of a problem as I start to put together my CV and
begin thinking about employment opportunities.

My question is to all of you, how would you deal with this? Have any of you had this
kind of problem which stems from being a self-learner? We all know that recruitment
agencies and CV's naturally require evidence of your skills, therefore, is there a
nationally recognised test I can take that will help me with this? If it helps, I'm
looking to achieve employment throughout the UK or Australia.

Cheers

Edited by Oasis88 on 27 February 2010 at 11:00am

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Paskwc
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 Message 2 of 13
27 February 2010 at 11:33am | IP Logged 
Where I live (Canada) teachers require a certain amount of credits in a discipline before
they can teach it. This is established by providing transcripts and so on.

I'm not sure how it works in Australia, but your post suggests that proficiency trumps
formalities. In that case, the major international body for Spanish education is the
Cervantes Institute. They administer a test with which you can establish your
proficiency. Their website also mentions some sort of teacher training program which
might interest you.

Website
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Cainntear
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 Message 3 of 13
27 February 2010 at 3:45pm | IP Logged 
I don't think their language courses are available outside of Europe (due to the requirement for a native speaking examiner to be present for oral exams), but the UK's Open University is popular for people looking to get a formally recognised language qualification. So if you're thinking of coming over to the UK anyone, you could consider doing it when you get here.

I'm doing so exactly because I want to be a language teacher, and in Scotland to get into teacher training college for languages, you have to have 80 undergraduate points in the language you want to teach. Of these, at least 40 must be at SQCF level 8 or above. (I know the credit points don't mean anything to you yet, but they're listed against each course on the OU website.)

A DELE (diplomado del español como lengua extranjera) from the Instituto Cervantes is not considered a suitable substitute as there is no taught component -- Scottish universities want to see proof of study with a reputable chartered university.

Edited by Cainntear on 27 February 2010 at 3:53pm

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William Camden
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27 February 2010 at 5:37pm | IP Logged 
Not a role model, perhaps, but you could do what Lee Harvey Oswald did. He came back from
the USSR fluent in Russian, but with no formal qualifications in the language. So he got
a Russia-born acquaintance, Paul Gregory was his name I think, to write a letter
certifying Oswald's competence in the Russian language.
If you know someone who could certify your command of a language, why not ask them to
write a letter for you doing that?
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translator2
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 Message 6 of 13
28 February 2010 at 3:05am | IP Logged 
If memory serves, they will give you a certificate in the form of an webpage that you can put on your resume:

Spanish Listening and Reading Test


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LatinoBoy84
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 Message 7 of 13
28 February 2010 at 5:30am | IP Logged 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instituto_Cervantes

What the Cervantes Institute does



Cervantes Institute headquarters, in Madrid.
It designs courses of Spanish language, offering two kinds of courses, general and
special.
It offers the examinations of the Diplomas of Spanish as Foreign Language (DELE) on
behalf of the Spanish Ministry of Education, Culture and Sport. It has official
qualifications certifying levels of competence in the Spanish language, and is the only
certificate for non-native Spanish speakers that is officially recognized.[4] The exam
is subdivided into three different levels, beginner, intermediate, and proficiency.
Beginner Level: This level certifies the linguistic sufficient proficiency to cope with
a range of situations requiring elementary use of the language.[2][4]
Intermediate Level: This level certifies the linguistic sufficient proficiency to
communicate in everyday situations, which do not require a specialized knowledge of the
Spanish language, to be able to cope with the current situations of daily life, in
normal circumstances of communication.[2][4]
Proficiency Level: This level certifies the linguistic sufficient competition to
communicate in situations requiring advanced use of Spanish and an understanding of
Spanish culture.[2][4]


You would want to take the Diplomas de Español como Lengua Extranjera the Spanish Equiv
of the TOEFL

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LatinoBoy84
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 Message 8 of 13
28 February 2010 at 5:32am | IP Logged 
William Camden wrote:
Not a role model, perhaps, but you could do what Lee Harvey
Oswald did. He came back from
the USSR fluent in Russian, but with no formal qualifications in the language. So he got
a Russia-born acquaintance, Paul Gregory was his name I think, to write a letter
certifying Oswald's competence in the Russian language.
If you know someone who could certify your command of a language, why not ask them to
write a letter for you doing that?


I plan to take the TORFL in a couple of years. As well as the Certification exam offered
by the Alliance Francais


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