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| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6357 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 1 of 16 17 August 2009 at 4:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have recently started to do russian scriptorium exercises, and I became confused when I saw the spellings of these words (among a few others as well).
одного, открытого, ничего Perhaps it's due to my untrained ear, but the cyrillic letter "г" sounds exactly like the cyrillic letter "в" to me. No matter how hard I try, I can't find anything that resembles the sound of "г". I would be grateful if someone could tell me what's going on here. Thanks 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 2 of 16 17 August 2009 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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Your ears aren't lying to you. In Old Russian (and Proto-Slavonic), г in -oгo or -eгo was pronounced something closer to "-ogo" or "-ego". However sometime during the Middle Ages, the г in "oгo" or "eгo" started to be pronounced closer to "h" which then changed further to something like "w" or "v" in the region around Moscow. As the principality of Moscow gained political power, its dialect gained more prestige and had a greater influence on the development of modern standard Russian.
If Russian spelling were to be updated to reflect current pronunciation practices, it would be spelled as "-oвo" or "-eвo". However the spelling practice has not been revised to match changes in pronunciation and so foreigners are left with an apparent oddity in Russian spelling. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6357 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 3 of 16 17 August 2009 at 5:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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Many thanks!
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| SII Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5792 days ago 184 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Russian* Studies: English | Message 4 of 16 17 August 2009 at 6:34pm | IP Logged | ||
The endings -ого and -его are pronounced as -аво and -иво. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6272 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 5 of 16 21 August 2009 at 10:59am | IP Logged | ||
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Russian is rather phonetic (certainly compared to English), but this is one of the major exceptions.
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| schlopps Diglot Newbie Russian Federation Joined 5573 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Speaks: English, Russian* Studies: French, German | Message 6 of 16 22 August 2009 at 10:44am | IP Logged | ||
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The Russian "г" is pronounced just like the English "g" as in 'ground' and 'grapes.'
Little kids usually spell endings like ого wrong, because they're generally pronounced with a "в", just like SII said. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5838 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 7 of 16 22 August 2009 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Aren't there some words where the "ого" appears in the MIDDLE if the word too?
I am sure I've come across some. Oh yes --- "сегодня" ! How common is this and are there any other such rules? I am finding that Russian spelling is harder than I expected! I had thought that spelling was the one thing about Russian that was simple! :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| SII Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5792 days ago 184 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Russian* Studies: English | Message 8 of 16 22 August 2009 at 4:47pm | IP Logged | ||
Hmmm... I don't know any common rules. "Сегодня" is pronounced as "сиводня". And the Russian spelling don't simple: there are many cases when words are read not as they were wrote. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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