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| Rmss Triglot Senior Member Spain spanish-only.coRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6563 days ago 234 posts - 248 votes  3 sounds Speaks: Dutch*, English, Spanish Studies: Portuguese | Message 9 of 12 23 November 2009 at 8:03pm | IP Logged |
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Grant and Cutler sells all volumes (http://www.grantandcutler.com/book/8038).
I got an abridged version from them, and the price isn't too bad. I think it's still in print as they always have stock or receive new copies every now and then. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Yukamina Senior Member Canada Joined 6263 days ago 281 posts - 332 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean, French | Message 10 of 12 23 November 2009 at 10:08pm | IP Logged |
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The Canadian Amazon also has them.
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| querido Newbie United States Joined 6105 days ago 13 posts - 15 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin | Message 11 of 12 10 December 2009 at 12:05am | IP Logged |
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Every attempt at "real" etymology inevitably calls for some creativity or speculation. Up to a point, it is still called "etymology". Citations of Wieger and Karlgren in the ABC via Wenlin are considered legitimate, I think, yet are obviously partly fanciful. I'd say they've helped me a lot. From there, additional helpful suggestions could be added and the little stories called etymologies morph into longer stories called mnemonics. I'd like to point out that I don't see a clear dividing line. Thus, Victor Mair's criticism cited above, of Matthews and of T.K.Ann, can't be a rejection of the mnemonic method (unless he's simply being pedantic), but rather of what he thinks are overwrought stories in Matthews. See his post and the commentary for some examples. While I've never seen Matthews, I tend to agree with him there, but I think this is only a matter of taste and preference. But here's why I posted: I disagree with him about T.K. Ann's Cracking the Chinese Puzzles. I think it is a very great work of etymology and reasonable, practical near-etymology, and I think it should be republished.
(By the way, the new book out, by Hoenig (2000 chars, 496 pages) also looks good to me. Here is an excerpt (pdf), and some commentary.) T.K. Ann's Cracking the Chinese Puzzles features a little bump in the learning curve to learn his indexing system for character-fragments. Other than that, it is a monumental reference and I disagree with the assessment mentioned earlier in the thread. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| bruceshaw Diglot Newbie China youtube.com/user/swfRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5463 days ago 9 posts - 10 votes Studies: Japanese, Mandarin*, English | Message 12 of 12 22 December 2009 at 3:33pm | IP Logged |
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Is video like this useful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mei5WRHi2VM ? Edited by bruceshaw on 22 December 2009 at 3:35pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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