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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 9 of 18
19 April 2010 at 2:26pm | IP Logged 
This one is tough, isn't it. There are so many possible turns and twists. When I started learning Italian I was already fluent in Spanish and French, having lived in both countries. I read 3000 pages of crime novels in Italian, in order to have a passive vocabulary. I then went for a two week's holiday to Italy. I did not find my Spanish to be any inconvenience, as what I did was to use all the Italian words I knew, and then simply fill in the gaps with Spanish. It sounded extremely impressive to my Norwegian friend, who was travelling wih me, but must have sounded very strange to all the Italians we met. I was however understood. During those two weeks I hooked up with an Italian boy friend, and towards the end I had shifted from speaking "Spantalian" to Italian.

I then had a major surprise when I got home though. My Spanish, which I considered my second native language, and which I had spoken without an accent since age 11 was gone. Vanished. I still understood absolutely everything people said in Spanish, but I could only answer in Italian. It took 6 months before my brain got out of the "I only want to focus on Italian mode", and my Spanish returned. Fortunately, it returned as strong as ever, but the first two, three conversations I had attempting to speak Spanish after coming home from Italy were pure torture. I simply could not accept that this had happened.

My honest advice? I do not know if anyone has the one and only correct answer to your question. I would probably say: It will be very tough, but if you really want to, go for it, and tell us later how it went.

I recently had the same predicament, as I am trying to learn Russian, and my 15-year old Polish, which I thought was practically extinct, suddenly popped up and caused havoc. I therefore asked a professor at the University of Oslo, whether it might be a good idea to read up on my Polish, in order to help my poor brain to differenciate between the two languages. He was opposed to the idea, but I think that was a gut reaction more than based on real experience.

I have learned French and Arabic at the same time, which was no problem, as they were so different, and I was fluent in French when I started with Arabic. I have studied German and English at the same time but again I had a good knowledge of English before I started with German. I think the only two languages I have done from the beginning in paralell was German and French, and they are not that close that they are a problem to each other.

Good luck, anyhow!

Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 21 April 2010 at 3:59pm

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Carisma
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 Message 10 of 18
21 April 2010 at 12:36am | IP Logged 
I would recommend not to start with Italian until you have, at least, an intermediate knowledge of Spanish (B1 or B2), because they are way too similar and it is really possible that you'll mix them up and get confused.
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Akao
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 Message 11 of 18
21 April 2010 at 4:30am | IP Logged 
There are many similarities in basic Italian and basic Spanish, but the extremely
different accents will help you remember when to use which word for which language.
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furrykef
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 Message 12 of 18
22 April 2010 at 2:57pm | IP Logged 
Akao wrote:
There are many similarities in basic Italian and basic Spanish


There are many similarities between advanced Italian and advanced Spanish, too. ;)

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Mafouz
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 Message 13 of 18
30 April 2010 at 5:42am | IP Logged 
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
, and towards the end I had shifted from speaking "Spantalian" to Italian.


The technical term is "Itañol" ;)
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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 14 of 18
30 April 2010 at 9:26am | IP Logged 
Mafouz wrote:
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
, and towards the end I had shifted from speaking "Spantalian" to Italian.


The technical term is "Itañol" ;)


I stand corrected :-)
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noriyuki_nomura
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 Message 15 of 18
30 April 2010 at 10:52am | IP Logged 
Personally, I think it is possible to learn both languages at the same time, though I think it would be wiser to concentrate on one language first to an intermediate level before embarking on the second one.

I did experience situations where I used the Spanish 'leche' instead of the Italian 'latte' in Italian conversations, for example.

Btw, don't you guys find that many Spanish speakers tend to speak, well, at TGV speed?   
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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 16 of 18
30 April 2010 at 12:51pm | IP Logged 
noriyuki_nomura wrote:
Personally, I think it is possible to learn both languages at the same time, though I think it would be wiser to concentrate on one language first to an intermediate level before embarking on the second one.

I did experience situations where I used the Spanish 'leche' instead of the Italian 'latte' in Italian conversations, for example.

Btw, don't you guys find that many Spanish speakers tend to speak, well, at TGV speed?   


Is there any other way? :-)


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