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 Message 9 of 15
02 May 2010 at 12:28am | IP Logged 
Thanks!! Sounds really brain-puzzling ;) I will try
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 Message 10 of 15
02 May 2010 at 10:13pm | IP Logged 
I'd recommend Listening-Reading with original 20th Century German literature. I found 1) "Siddhartha" by Hermann Hesse, 2) "Der Vorleser" by Bernhard Schlink, and 3) "Das Parfum" by Patrick Suskind, all to be quite enjoyable reads on the whole and these might be worth considering for your list. More essentially, all three are available in both English and German versions, with full unabridged German audiobooks, which you can buy via websites such as Amazon or Thalia. If you're interested in how I got on with these and would like to get some further perspective from another L-R learner, then please feel welcome to check out my German log sometime.

If you're looking for something free off the Internet instead, you could try searching for the works of Franz Kafka (although this could be a little tough going at first), or check out MarcoDiAngelo's superb growing collection of parallel texts and audio links. The key here really is to find novels you enjoy reading and well narrated audio you like the voice of, if and where possible, and try to aim for text that is just above your current level but still challenging enough to learn lots of new vocabulary and structures (i.e. Krashen's i+1).

Viel Glück mit Ihrem Studium!

Edited by Teango on 02 May 2010 at 10:15pm

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Langlove
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 Message 11 of 15
03 May 2010 at 8:15pm | IP Logged 
Thanks Teango, but for the life of me, I can't find the English translation of Kafka's Das Schloss. Though, I was able
to find audiobook and German text of it. Please help me. For the time being, I want to stick with free resources just
to check the efficacy of L-R. If you know any other novel's (if not Das Schloss) all three parts lying somewhere
freely, please let me know.
Thanks
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 Message 12 of 15
03 May 2010 at 8:39pm | IP Logged 
Langlove wrote:
Thanks Teango, but for the life of me, I can't find the English translation of Kafka's Das Schloss.


Oh, that is a surprise - it seems an easy book to get hold of. If you search on Amazon they certainly do have copies of Kafka's "The Castle" in English. And, even doing a Google search for "Kafka Castle pdf" turned up several versions that can be downloaded (not sure if the copyright has expired though - so this may be illegal).
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 Message 13 of 15
03 May 2010 at 8:59pm | IP Logged 
Aha...so you noticed too ;) Finding free transcripts and translations for creating parallel texts of German literature (especially novels that aren't straight out of the Ark or your great-great-grandfather's closet), as well as getting hold of their accompanying audio books, can prove quite a challenge. You see, unlike every other language I've ever looked into for Listening-Reading, the German laws on infringing copyright etc are very stringent indeed.

Although there are free resources if you look around long enough, they often turn out to be poor quality or abridged texts/radio plays anyway. I also like my audio to be cut into shorter manageable files, rather than have to mess around with one or two really long tracks. This is just a personal preference and suits my style of studying.

In the end I just gave up beating my head against the wall on this one, and bought all the materials separately. If you work out how many hours you spend on looking for free resources in German, and then add up how much you would have been paid at work for all these hours, it starts to put things in perspective. Besides, I really like the feel of a good quality book in my hands rather than staring at the computer screen for hours or juggling printouts these days.

I use this German text and this English translation of "Das Schloss". I also bought a boxset of audio book CDs by Ulrich Matthes, who was the narrator for my copy of "Siddhartha" too, and is one of the main actors in the acclaimed film "Der Untergang" incidentally. Well to be totally honest, all these resources for Das Schloss are currently sitting on my bookshelf, but I do hope to start using them soon enough... ;)

Edited by Teango on 03 May 2010 at 9:09pm

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Langlove
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 Message 14 of 15
05 May 2010 at 6:28pm | IP Logged 
Thanks, I got hold of Kafka's 'The Trial' and 'Metamorphosis' as well as Carroll's 'Alice's adventures in wonderland'.
Now I have parallel texts and audiobooks of these three novels which should be good enough to get started. Later
on, I will move on to other stuff, but by the time I do L-R with these three novels, my German should be good
enough as I have been living in Zürich for two and half years and have had a constant exposure to German (even
though until now I didn't show a considerable conscious effort to learn German). Thanks all for the help.
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 Message 15 of 15
05 May 2010 at 6:51pm | IP Logged 
Viel Erfolg, Langlove!


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