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atcprunner
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02 May 2010 at 4:11am | IP Logged 
Hello, my name is Matthew Armstrong.
I have a friend that speaks Mixteco as his first language. It is Mixteco Alto, and he comes from Mixtepec of Oaxaca (Mexico). I am interested in learning his language. He does not speak English, so I use Spanish as our mode of communication. He is very intelligent,and he is willing to sit with me for an hour or two once a week. Also, he is a coworker.
The problem is, there isn't much I can find on the web about his dialect of Mixteco. As far as I can decipher, most of the other Mixteco dialects are mutually unintelligible.
Of course he is able to tell me what a cat is, and what a dog is. He can give me phrases and sentences; however, this does not help me very much with understanding the "nuts" and "bolts" of the language so that I can create my own new sentences.
I know about the materials on the website for the Summer Institute of Languages. I am just hopeful that there is someone here who can steer me in the right direction.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
-Matthew Armstrong
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04 May 2010 at 7:45pm | IP Logged 
This might not give you the nuts and bolts, but there are 4 types of mixteco audiobibles which seem to be free here: http://www.faithcomesbyhearing.com/ambassador/free-audio-bib le-download

Mixteco Coazospan
Mixteco Jamiltepec
Mixteco Penoles
Mixteco Tezoatlan

If one of these is a match, then at least you'll have tons of audio material with a chance at finding the corresponding text.


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pohaku
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04 May 2010 at 8:21pm | IP Logged 
I don't have personal experience with the techniques, but I know that field linguists have developed ways of learning languages cold. They may get dropped into the middle of a jungle, for example, and they need to learn to communicate with the natives with little or no information about their language. I've heard that they use dolls and puppets, talk to kids a lot, and so forth. You can go far beyond dog and cat, pantomiming actions, working out color names, using a calendar to get yesterday, today, tomorrow, etc. You're ahead of the game, anyway, since you share Spanish. You might want to investigate that angle if you're up for a challenge like that.
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05 May 2010 at 12:11am | IP Logged 
I found a link to a Mixteco course book.

http://www.narcis.info/publication/RecordID/oai:openaccess.l eidenuniv.nl:1887%2F14684

I hope it'll be helpful. :)
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05 May 2010 at 2:18am | IP Logged 
I will have my friend listen to these materials. It would be a great gift for him if I had the bible in his native language. I do not think that I would use the bible as a tool for learning though. At times it's difficult enough in English. Thank you for helping me. Didn't think anyone was going to help. Thank you.
Matthew Armstrong.
buhrahyun wrote:
This might not give you the nuts and bolts, but there are 4 types of mixteco audiobibles which seem to be free here: http://www.faithcomesbyhearing.com/ambassador/free-audio-bib le-download

Mixteco Coazospan
Mixteco Jamiltepec
Mixteco Penoles
Mixteco Tezoatlan

If one of these is a match, then at least you'll have tons of audio material with a chance at finding the corresponding text.



Edited by atcprunner on 05 May 2010 at 2:20am

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atcprunner
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05 May 2010 at 2:23am | IP Logged 
pohaku wrote:
I don't have personal experience with the techniques, but I know that field linguists have developed ways of learning languages cold. They may get dropped into the middle of a jungle, for example, and they need to learn to communicate with the natives with little or no information about their language. I've heard that they use dolls and puppets, talk to kids a lot, and so forth. You can go far beyond dog and cat, pantomiming actions, working out color names, using a calendar to get yesterday, today, tomorrow, etc. You're ahead of the game, anyway, since you share Spanish. You might want to investigate that angle if you're up for a challenge like that.

I have a course for another dialect of mixteco which does help with the grammar, but almost all of the words have to be tweaked. It is like Spanish and portuguese it seems. I believe that I must just take the time to go through that course with him and have him change everything into his dialect.
Thank you.
Matthew Armstrong
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05 May 2010 at 2:25am | IP Logged 
Danac wrote:
I found a link to a Mixteco course book.

http://www.narcis.info/publication/RecordID/oai:openaccess.l eidenuniv.nl:1887%2F14684

I hope it'll be helpful. :)

In fact, your post was very helpful: however, I had already stumbled upon this course, and I have it printed out. Like I said in a previous response to another forum member, it is a course of an "almost" mutually unintelligible dialect.
These marginalized languages desperately need authors to perpetuated themselves.
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06 May 2010 at 4:46am | IP Logged 
I have found a resource here http://globalrecordings.net/program/C11291 thanks to the help that I got here, which led me to do further research. I will try to have him write a script for me, and I will place it here for anyone in the future who may want a transcript.


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