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TheElvenLord
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 Message 1 of 26
14 October 2008 at 12:20pm | IP Logged 
Can I study Spanish and Mandarin to an intermediate level by May/June/July 2009?

In those months, I am doing my Mandarin Chinese Asset Language (Intermediate) qualification and Spanish GCSE, meaning, for both, that I am B1 (Low Intermediate).

At the moment, my Spanish is around A1.5 (between A1 and A2).
And my Mandarin is A1 (Low beginner).

I am using a variety of techniques and methods to reach this.

At the moment, for Mandarin, I am doing Classes, Reading, MT and ChinesePod
For Spanish, I am doing Classes and SpanishPod. I am also using TeachMe! and MT.

I wish to try out Assimil for both methods, and Earworms.

I have so far done no ChinesePod or SpanishPod, but have done a few lessons of TeachMe!
I have been doing Spanish for 2.25 years now. I started Mandarin last year, but didn't study very hard.

I will update this every morning (hopefully) apart from Saturdays and Sundays, which will be reported on the Monday.

TEL
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14 October 2008 at 10:34pm | IP Logged 
I'd say it's definitely possible. Get started on that Chinese Assimil soon. I have it and really like it (although I'm holding off Chinese study for a year).
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TheElvenLord
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 Message 3 of 26
15 October 2008 at 2:44am | IP Logged 
Update 1 - 14/10/2008

Chinese:

Did ChinesePod:
Picking someone up
Introduction 1 - Good morning
Introduction # - What's your name
50 minutes of class

Spanish:

Reading:
Adios Papa (Goodbye father)
El Mundo (The world (Newspaper online))
40 minutes of class

TEL
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 Message 4 of 26
15 October 2008 at 4:52am | IP Logged 
I'd say Spanish is definitely possible; spoken Chinese is definitely possible, but if you need to be B1 level in written Chinese as well, that will take some serious work.

The problem with Chinese is that most textbooks will leave you alone to study the characters, however you might accomplish that. I really found it an impossible task for the longest time and my written Chinese is only now catching up to my spoken Chinese level.

Unless you have a good memory for pictures, I'd strongly recommend getting the book "Learning Chinese Characters" published by Tuttle and starting on character study asap. It's similar to the Heisig method that you may have read about in the forum, but fully adapted to Chinese and with a clear goalset. I posted a detailed review on Amazon. I am not affiliated with the book or the publishers in any way.

EDIT: if you haven't done much character study yet, I'd be happy to give you a 30-minute intro to the writing system, which will also teach you 25 characters in a memorable way.

Edited by Sprachprofi on 15 October 2008 at 4:58am

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TheElvenLord
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 Message 5 of 26
15 October 2008 at 7:20am | IP Logged 
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if you haven't done much character study yet, I'd be happy to give you a 30-minute intro to the writing system, which will also teach you 25 characters in a memorable way

I have a large lexicon of vocabulary needed for the HSK exams, so I will be using them, along with maybe Heisig, but I will also look at the book you've mentioned.
What sort of format is "Learning Chinese Characters". Perhaps you can scan a page or two and send them to me just to see (Copyright laws say that you can copy up to 20% of a book for your and your classes personal use). Cheers.

Quote:
I'd say Spanish is definitely possible; spoken Chinese is definitely possible, but if you need to be B1 level in written Chinese as well, that will take some serious work


Spanish will be much easier.
For the moment, I am concentrating on spoken Chinese, but I will be doing the Writing and Reading skill, so I will be needing to learn Characters. Do you know of any Pinyin chinese websites (reading stuff in Pinyin or Character/Pinyin format)

Thanks
TEL
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 Message 6 of 26
15 October 2008 at 8:18am | IP Logged 
TEL, you can preview the book at Amazon. (Just click "Search inside the book")

Edited by jeff_lindqvist on 15 October 2008 at 8:19am

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TheElvenLord
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 Message 7 of 26
16 October 2008 at 2:41am | IP Logged 
Update 2 -15/10/2008

Chinese

Did nothing

Spanish

Did one level of TeachMe! Spanish.

(I was very busy with coursework)

TEL
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 Message 8 of 26
16 October 2008 at 5:47am | IP Logged 
This Bible site has a pinyin version of the Bible.

I would not count on finding pinyin versions of much of anything though; speaking as a native speaker, I found it hard to understand the pinyin version while the normal version was instantly comprehensible. In the same vein as some people recommend using as little Romaji for Japanese as possible, I advise you to start with the characters as soon as possible.


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