NB Groupie Canada Joined 5533 days ago 42 posts - 45 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean, Japanese
| Message 1 of 6 21 October 2009 at 10:53pm | IP Logged |
I came across the Vocabulearn Japanese, and was wondering if anyone has used it to
improve their Japanese. The vocabulary sequence seems a little odd and random to me. Any
thoughts?
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Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5520 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish*
| Message 2 of 6 21 October 2009 at 11:26pm | IP Logged |
I found it somewhere but don't really like it. The voice actor of course sounds like a lunatic, and the randomness of the words make it quite unusable to me. One way to use it could be to chop it up into shorter segments with, say, ten words in each, and put that on repeat. It seems to me that if you only hear each word once every quarter of an hour (and how long are our study sessions supposed to be anyway) you will probably have forgotten even hearing it before when it comes around next.
To me the idea behind the method is doubtful from the outset, it forces you to constantly switch between languages.
I haven't used Assimil Japanese, but their courses usually cover a lot of vocabulary, possibly even more than vocabulearn, and IN CONTEXT, which makes it infinitely easier to remember.
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6767 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 3 of 6 22 October 2009 at 4:50am | IP Logged |
I got it but I never use it. It seems too passive, and I need context for learning words.
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NB Groupie Canada Joined 5533 days ago 42 posts - 45 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean, Japanese
| Message 4 of 6 22 October 2009 at 10:21pm | IP Logged |
Thanks -- I'll try to find the Assimil in Japanese. Agreed on the lack of context in
Vocabulearn, I can't figure out the choice of vocabulary either.
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Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7120 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian
| Message 5 of 6 10 November 2009 at 4:22am | IP Logged |
Regarding Vocabulearn, I don't think it's a bad resource necessarily, as long as it is being used in conjunction with other resources that do give a context. The lack of context is the main issue with it, I think, but then again, I don't think they claim that Vocabulearn is a complete method of language learning.
They are useful to use while driving, or doing other tasks. You'll hear, and learn, new words, many out of context, but if you're using other courses and reading, or listening to, language in context, at some point what either those words and phrases will pop up (and this is where you'll get that familiar feeling) or hearing what you've already learned contextually will be reinforced through use.
As an additional tool in your arsenal, I think it's OK to use, a bit like carrying a phrase book and reading bits of it while you're standing in queue.
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jerrypettit Groupie United States Joined 6025 days ago 79 posts - 103 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 6 of 6 14 November 2009 at 3:07am | IP Logged |
I have several volumes of Vocabulearn languages that I manually chopped up in an audio editor and imported into Supermemo.
Specifically for Japanese, I would recommend the PlaySay stuff at www.playsay.com which has the JLPT words level by level all ready to import into your iPod or whever (MP3).
Pretty reasonably priced.
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