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| Rmss Triglot Senior Member Spain spanish-only.coRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6563 days ago 234 posts - 248 votes  3 sounds Speaks: Dutch*, English, Spanish Studies: Portuguese | Message 1 of 5 22 November 2009 at 5:46pm | IP Logged |
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I'm think about buying A Dictionary Of Turkish Verbs: In Context And By Theme. The thing is, I can't find a good review about the book online, so I was wondering is anyone on the forum has the book or ever used it.
How's the use of language? Is it up to date or really old fashioned like many Turkish resources? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7143 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 2 of 5 22 November 2009 at 6:40pm | IP Logged |
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I've been learning and working with Turkish for the past 30-odd years, and I wish I'd had something like this when I was learning. I think that it's a book with an incredible amount of useful information in it for foreign learners of Turkish, but that there's one problem: How to use it? It's a huge, heavy paperback book, making it much too cumbersome to carry around with you to study in odd moments. So it'll stay at home on your desk or someplace, and you have to figure out the best way to utilize it. Since it's only a dictionary of verbs and verbal expressions, it's not really a dictionary to look things up in, but rather a resource to learn how to use the different verbs.
I've never been one to engage in "sentence-mining", but I think that might be the best way to utilize this book, as the many example sentences for each verb are very typical conversational Turkish sentences. So taking a couple of verbs at a time and the example sentences to learn with flashcards or via an SRS system might be an ideal way to learn not only the verbs in question but also a lot of other vocabulary and related grammar points (such as the cases the objects of the verbs take, etc.) I confess I haven't done this, since by now there's very little in the book that I haven't already assimilated in one way or another over the years. But I would have loved to have had this when I was first struggling with the language -- well, actually, not at the very beginning, but at the intermediate stage when I was trying to expand my vocabulary and solidify my knowledge of the grammar. I really think it's a brilliant book, and that if you actually work through it in one way or another, you can learn an awful lot about the verbs, other aspects of the language, and even the culture, but given the massive size of the book and the volume of information in it, a fair amount of "Sitzfleisch" is required in order to get the most from it. (I think the language used in it is quite up-to-date, and not at all archaic, although older synonyms are also provided in many cases.) The English translations of the Turkish sentences are very well done, and by comparing the two, you see the way Turkish "works" in expressing all sorts of ideas, beyond what normally gets covered in most textbooks. So even though the book is massive, and fairly expensive, I think it's a marvelous resource for anyone with a SERIOUS interest in learning Turkish to a high level. You have to figure out for yourself how best to use the book for your own needs, but I think it contains more examples of the way the language is actually used, and clear explanations as well as very good translations, than any other resource I can think of. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| LatinoBoy84 Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5574 days ago 443 posts - 603 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Latvian | Message 3 of 5 22 November 2009 at 7:37pm | IP Logged |
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What Programs do you learners of the Turkish language use? I haven't seen to many (at least here in the states), I mean seen some basics like One level of Pimsleur, One level of Linguaphone, nothing in Living Languages, or a number of popular/known publishers. That has to make learning the language difficult. The most complete material I've seen is FSI and that has to be outdated at this point right?
The most useful material I've seen is Assimil (French base only). There is also a TeachYourself course as well. I'm just curious on the language and people are doing to learn it (this being said I'm sure there is an incredible amount of high quality material in German & Russian). The language is certainly interesting with a huge number of speakers, and when other Turkic languages are added into the mix (because of intelligibility) the number of potential people one would be able to speak with is impressive. What are most people using? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Rmss Triglot Senior Member Spain spanish-only.coRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6563 days ago 234 posts - 248 votes 3 sounds Speaks: Dutch*, English, Spanish Studies: Portuguese | Message 4 of 5 22 November 2009 at 8:37pm | IP Logged |
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daristani; Thank you for your reply. I'll look into it. Luckily I still have a gift certificate lying around for Amazon, so it'll 'only' cost me like $30 with shipping :-).
LatinoBoy84; I use Teach Yourself (beginner's book and the 'normal' book). The FSI is just too boring for me, plus that it's outdated indeed. On the other hand there's an incredible amount of materials for native speakers of Turkish online for free. Having in mind that I learn by immersing myself I don't have a problem learning Turkish. But you're right, it's quite difficult to find learning materials for Turkish. I'm thinking about getting the Assimil course (there's also a Dutch version, not just French), but it's quite expensive for me at the moment. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Rmss Triglot Senior Member Spain spanish-only.coRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6563 days ago 234 posts - 248 votes 3 sounds Speaks: Dutch*, English, Spanish Studies: Portuguese | Message 5 of 5 10 December 2009 at 1:08pm | IP Logged |
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I bought the dictionary and it's MASSIVE. Really complete, lots of example sentences are pretty easy to use. However, these seem to be some errors in sme example sentences, so what I do is sending each sentence I want to add to Anki to a Turkish friend of mine, so that I'm sure I'm adding correct sentences.
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