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| LatinoBoy84 Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5574 days ago 443 posts - 603 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Latvian | Message 1 of 16 23 November 2009 at 3:39am | IP Logged | |||||
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Hi everyone,
Many of us have native languages that other people are studying. I'm sure there are a number of Books and Programs that are of extremely high quality, that many of us are unaware of because we did not grow up the county of the language. For example I'm sure there are some excellent Turkish learning materials in German, or brilliant materials in Russian for any of the Ex-Soviet state languages, perhaps Korean books on Japanese,Spanish materials for Portuguese etc. Given that many of us study these languages, we would eventually acquire enough knowledge to be able use other "base languages". Many of us who are learning French for example will probably take advantage of Assimil's rather extensive (French Base) selection. If you have experience of knowledge of some quality materials (in a language other than English) please share: 1)the base language(s) 2)target language(s) in the "series" 3)the country of origin 4)publisher 5)were one might be able to purchase the materials. Also if possible give a summary of the materials, style of the content and overall quality. Edited by LatinoBoy84 on 26 November 2009 at 11:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7220 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 2 of 16 23 November 2009 at 4:03am | IP Logged | |||||
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I started a similar thread for reference last summer. There were restrictions, as I wanted to avoid repetition. Example was to not mention the other language bases Prof. Arguelles has on his videos. I think only two people responded, in addition to my own findings. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5520 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish* | Message 3 of 16 23 November 2009 at 12:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In addition to the profusion of material, it can be a very good idea to study for example Polish through Russian, since you will otherwise when the English based textbook goes on and on about verbal aspect, palatalisation, verbs of motion etc, things that you are already very familiar with. Similarly (but also kind of vice versa), I wouldn't learn Icelandic through English, since Swedish is so much closer.
Unfortunately, there is probably no way to utilise your knowledge of TWO languages when learning a third... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6438 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 4 of 16 23 November 2009 at 1:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
Of course there are ways - you can actively observe and find similarities and differences. There are even some materials which are useful for this - multilingual parallel texts, and a few books which draw comparisons, for example. Barring parallel texts, even reading the same book in several related languages, one after another, is useful. Two excellent books that come to mind: R. G. A. de Bray's "Guide to the Slavonic Languages", Bodmer's "The Loom of Languages" (this is mainly useful for the Romance and Germanic languages). On the less serious but still somewhat interesting side, EuroComGerm's "Die sieben Siebe" is somewhat useful for the Romance languages - there was a link to download it free from their website a few years ago. All of these books have previously been discussed at more length on this forum. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6767 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek | Message 5 of 16 23 November 2009 at 2:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Without mentioning any books specifically, I would say there are better materials for learning Korean, Mandarin,
and Thai in Japanese than in English. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5668 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 6 of 16 23 November 2009 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
I was quite excited by that recommendation (thank you!). Then I looked it up on Amazon, and found that the volume that most interested is for sale for a whopping $411.79 :-( 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6438 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 7 of 16 23 November 2009 at 5:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
The cheapest copy on abebooks.com is less than $10 - plus shipping. Edit - that's "Guide to the Slavonic Languages: Guide to the East Slavonic Languages: 003". The only volume I'm personally familiar with is simply the "Guide to the Slavonic languages", without an Eastern or Western subtitle, second revised edition. Something by this title (minus information on the revision) starts at about $35 plus shipping for a slightly beaten-up copy, and for a few bucks more, there are other sellers. Second edit: The languages covered in my copy of the book are Old Slavonic (Old Bulgarian), Russian, Ukrainian, Byelorussian, Bulgarian, Macedonian, Serbocroatian, Slovenian, Czech, Slovak, Polish, and Lusatian (or Wendish). The book briefly sketches morphology, characteristic features, a bit of information on dialects, writing system and pronunciations, and differences between the languages, for each language, as well as providing short sample texts in each. Edited by Volte on 23 November 2009 at 5:40pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| LatinoBoy84 Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5574 days ago 443 posts - 603 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Latvian | Message 8 of 16 24 November 2009 at 4:13am | IP Logged | |||||
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Program: PONS
Base Language:Spanish Target languages: Several http://www.ponsidiomas.com/ Summary: Based on what I've seen, this seems to be a popular company in Spain. They have several Target languages available, prices seem reasonable. The company claims to follow the common european framework and the main courses include 2 books with 4 cd's. Program: Curso completo de lengua rusa Base Language: Spanish Target: Russian Summary: I've read on another site that the two books cover approximately three semesters worth of University studies. The student is expected to have command of 3,000 words by the end of the course. http://www.edicioneshispanoeslavas.com/ Edited by LatinoBoy84 on 24 November 2009 at 4:25am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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