lagwagon555 Diglot Groupie New Zealand Joined 6118 days ago 38 posts - 47 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto Studies: Japanese
| Message 1 of 4 26 November 2009 at 2:52am | IP Logged |
This question is directed at people who have learned a language with a foreign script, without any previous study. Since I'm already studying Japanese script, this question is simply out of curiosity. But has anyone been able to read a foreign script just by using the Assimil method? In the Japanese one, it says 'don't study the script, just read along and assimilate it'. While this works great for the spoken language, I'm curious to see if people can actually learn to read just by following along. I'd be incredibly surprised if anyone learned Chinese or Japanese script by this method, but maybe Arabic or Hebrew?
Edited by lagwagon555 on 26 November 2009 at 2:55am
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fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7145 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto
| Message 2 of 4 26 November 2009 at 6:05am | IP Logged |
I would be interested as well. I have Assimil Russian, Greek and Hebrew but I had already learnt the scripts when I bought them. I gave up trying to learn Arabic with Assimil because I only had the book and not the audio.
I have Assimil Chinese but I am using other resources to learn written Chinese.
I don't know that using Assimil is the easiest way to learn a new alphabet or script. I would be interested to know if others have done so.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6908 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 3 of 4 27 November 2009 at 12:17am | IP Logged |
I didn't know many Chinese characters before I studied Assimil, but since I've always used many programs in combination I can't really say where or when "I learned how to read Chinese" - not that I'm that good now either...
A friend of mine who got the Arabic course have had problems learning the script. However, I don't know anything about the time spent on the course, his focus or his aptitude for learning languages.
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6438 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 4 of 4 27 November 2009 at 3:44am | IP Logged |
It strikes me as pretty doable, actually.
I learned to read Cyrillic via L-R, with no other study of it.
I'm now L-R'ing Japanese. I had previous knowledge of the kana and a few hundred kanji, and know the basic principles kanji are constructed from, but I'm picking up readings and new kanji and solidifying my ability to read the kana at a reasonable pace. I'd say it's going well.
I think it's worthwhile spending a little time reading about radicals/bushou, but with that knowledge, I don't really see any barriers to learning the hanzi/kanji from texts with audio, as long as you have a sufficient amount. Assimil alone won't be enough for Chinese/Japanese, I'd say - I needed about that much audio for Cyrillic, which is much simpler and closer to the Latin alphabet.
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