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sei
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Message 9 of 11

19 September 2008 at 8:46am | IP Logged

Whisky wrote:

Well I've tried a couple and Anki is the one I prefer. VTrain for example puts cards in boxes, asks you to define box periodicity (you enter whatever values you like) and sends correct cards to the next box and wrong cards to the very first box. That's a bit too unflexible for my taste.

Sounds like the old manual method put into the computer. ^^

Whisky wrote:

I'll have a look, maybe those can serve as a basis for a deck of my own. I find that to be really useful to many, a deck should be very neutral, under the assumption that you are meant to customise it on your own. So it may save some work, but by far not all of it :-/

I went looking into it and you mind find useful the Heisig cards. There's one deck for RTK 1 and one deck for both RTK 1 and 3. Since you mentioned you'll work through it, that mind be good. But there's also a site with those already made, and it might actually be better.

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Whisky
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Message 10 of 11

20 September 2008 at 11:51am | IP Logged

Today I received my copy of Heisig's book - I've gone through the first three lessons and then tested myself with Anki, using the pre-made deck (keyword to Kanji). An answer has to comprise the correct strokes in the correct order and for the correct "reasons" (story approximatively the same as Heisig's).

While my short term memory of what I studied seems good enough, I'm quite curious about how it goes in the long term.
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Whisky
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Message 11 of 11

28 September 2008 at 10:19am | IP Logged

I've gone through the first part of Heisig's book (the easy part, yes) and my retention rate seems pretty good. The other (huge) advantage of the method he proposes is that I not only get to recognise the Kanji, I can actually reproduce them (horribly).

It seems to me now that a great deal of the time I spent going through the Kanji, one school-year at a time, was very badly invested. Most of the time, it hardly helps me to fix a Kanji in memory using "semantic mnemonics" to have a knowledge of the actual pictogram. Heisig's method is weird - I guess it works because we're funny wired.

The influence the study of Kanji has on my study in the Assimil is nice, it seems easier to identify and remember the roots of a word the Kanji of which I've memorised.

I've yet to decide where the goal of studying Japanese actually lies (the pretext being my 2-week visit next year), but the trip so far has been rather enjoyable.

Edited by Whisky on 10 November 2008 at 2:29pm

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