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Kugel
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 Message 9 of 16
01 November 2009 at 5:46pm | IP Logged 
Does the this software allow the user to have each prompt set on random(a prompt could be "Do you have x") so as
to not have "Do you have shekels" followed by "Do you have dollars"? Each prompt could have an array(or whatever
you programmers call it) of 20-30 variations.

I really need to get my programming and multimedia skillz on so I can try this myself.


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Hashimi
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 Message 10 of 16
01 November 2009 at 7:55pm | IP Logged 

Cainntear wrote:
the software left an awful lot of unnecessary silences....


Because the default is that there are 5 new words only in every lesson, there are (unfortunately) gaps of silence in the first lesson because there aren't any old ones, but thankfully it's only a small problem because only lesson 1 is affected; if a user can be persuaded to bear with it for a while, it will get better later.

To see what kind of thing it is doing, have a look at the technical graph on the web page. Look at it full screen if possible. It shows 5 new words with lots of older words in between.


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Hashimi
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 Message 11 of 16
01 November 2009 at 7:59pm | IP Logged 

Kugel wrote:
Does the this software allow the user to have each prompt set on random(a prompt could be "Do you have x") so as
to not have "Do you have shekels" followed by "Do you have dollars"? Each prompt could have an array(or whatever
you programmers call it) of 20-30 variations.


You can use as much prompts as you can. There is no limit.


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Cainntear
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 Message 12 of 16
02 November 2009 at 3:28am | IP Logged 
Hashimi wrote:

Cainntear wrote:
the software left an awful lot of unnecessary silences....


Because the default is that there are 5 new words only in every lesson, there are (unfortunately) gaps of silence in the first lesson because there aren't any old ones, but thankfully it's only a small problem because only lesson 1 is affected; if a user can be persuaded to bear with it for a while, it will get better later.

I feel the software should set the time to match the material -- if there isn't enough material, it should ignore the requested lesson time and make it shorter. It's not like I'd be doing any less work that way.
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Kugel
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 Message 13 of 16
02 November 2009 at 7:28pm | IP Logged 
Hashimi wrote:

Kugel wrote:
Does the this software allow the user to have each prompt set on random(a prompt could be "Do
you have x") so as
to not have "Do you have shekels" followed by "Do you have dollars"? Each prompt could have an array(or
whatever
you programmers call it) of 20-30 variations.


You can use as much prompts as you can. There is no limit.



What I meant is having a variable prompt inside of a prompt so as to increase the variety of vocab. "I have
dollars" and "I have shekels" is really the same prompt. Changing one word isn't really helping the learner when
it comes to learning the languages's structure. For example, here are 5 prompts:

How do you say "I've driven to Berlin"
Ich bin nach Berlin gefahren    =>Variables would be location and subject

How do you say "I've driven the auto to Berlin
Ich habe das Auto nach Berlin gefahren   =>Variables would be subject, direct object and location

How do you say "I gave the aunt to the communist"
Ich gab dem Kommunisten die Tante   =>Variables would be subject and the other objects

How do you say "I live in Berlin"
Ich wohne in Berlin    =>Variables would be subject and location...maybe throw in time

How do you say "He died in Berlin (using conversation past)"
Er ist in Berlin gestorben =>Variables would be subject and place


Just changing the location, the direct object, and the indirect object shouldn't warrant a new prompt, but the
learner should be exposed to a variety of locations and objects to increase the vocab. Not to mention that some
objects do a good job in explaining the case system.
   

Edited by Kugel on 02 November 2009 at 7:42pm

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Hoopskidoodle
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 Message 14 of 16
03 November 2009 at 6:21am | IP Logged 
This looks interesting.

Too bad I already manually converted most of the Pimsleur French Course series to Anki flashcards w/ audio (ripped from the Pimsleur CDs)

Edited by Hoopskidoodle on 03 November 2009 at 6:22am

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Hashimi
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 Message 15 of 16
03 November 2009 at 2:35pm | IP Logged 

Why too bad? this is good news, now you can easily put them in Gradint.


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Hoopskidoodle
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 Message 16 of 16
04 November 2009 at 3:18am | IP Logged 
Hashimi wrote:

Why too bad? this is good news, now you can easily put them in Gradint.


Upon further perusal of the Gradint page, I suppose that this could be useful as a supplement to Anki, for use during those ever so brief moments when I have access to neither a computer nor my iPhone.


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