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| Cherepaha Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6589 days ago 126 posts - 175 votes  Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Polish, Latin, French | Message 41 of 45 15 March 2010 at 11:29am | IP Logged | |||||
:) that is cute
Mmm, it was not the way it used to be taught in schools, unlike the “whole word recognition” approach in some elementary schools in the States. When I read a handwritten Russian text, I scan it, as I would do, while reading a text printed in a book. If all of a sudden I cannot understand some word or a couple of adjacent words, I slow down and try to understand what an individual letter or sequence of letters could be. Here I try to match each individual letter to the known styles of writing of that letter (say, for "d" it could be "∂", "g", "д", and the like). I also try to imagine how those letters could be altered inadvertently in fast writing. If that fails, I try to look at a larger context: what word could this be by substituting different letters in the trouble spot, and then even broader: what word could be used in this sentence. In other words, I feel that I read smoothly, and when running into problems my algorithm is: first zoom in (to the level of a letter), and then zoom out (to the word, sentence level). //if all fails, throw your hands up in the air ;)// 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5838 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 42 of 45 29 March 2010 at 11:34pm | IP Logged | |||||
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The Podcast series "A spoonful of Russian" actually shows the hostess Natalia write different Russian words and letter on the screen using Cyrillic handwriting.
Very convenient if you don't know how to write the letters. Just realised this and thought it might be helpful for a new learner. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| sunny Groupie United States Joined 6248 days ago 98 posts - 128 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian, Welsh, French | Message 43 of 45 01 April 2010 at 4:01am | IP Logged | |||||
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In university, I have two Russian language professors. One is a native Russian and her handwriting is perfect. When teaching us, she stressed that the students should learn it, although times when I lapse into printed lettering she doesn't count off or even note.
Unfortunately, even after writing completely in script for over 4 months, I still couldn't even read my own handwriting(and it is NOT bad, just the handwriting is so difficult to read even when perfectly made), so now I do the items I need to reread in print. The other professor is Canadian and has unreadable handwriting, period. (And is critical of my printed Ж.) But I have heard from many of my Russian friends that the handwriting is necessary. When I first started teaching myself, however, the joining of the various letters wasn't clear. So whichever method you choose to learn must have whole words to copy so you can learn the right way to join. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5481 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 44 of 45 01 April 2010 at 6:52am | IP Logged | |||||
ж and ф are the most annoying to handwrite, and I always find I mess up on them and it looks like a little scribble or a few loops. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cherepaha Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6589 days ago 126 posts - 175 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Polish, Latin, French | Message 45 of 45 05 April 2010 at 10:55am | IP Logged | |||||
Don’t know if this could help with the specific trouble that you are having with these two letters, but here is what I do: 1/ I write the script "ж" the way it is taught, and then add a horizontal line in the middle. That makes it much easier to at a quick glance know that it is not a "ш" or any other letter/letter combination that might look similar in quick handwriting. 2/ With regards to "ф", I sometimes write it as a block letter in the middle of my script writing by making a quick oval (i.e. letter "O" lying on its side) and then add a long vertical line. This way the letter only takes two strokes to write. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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