Register  Login  Active Topics  Maps  

Russian Without Toil

  Tags: Russian
 Language Learning Forum : Language Programs, Books & Tapes Post Reply
29 messages over 4 pages: 1 2 3 4  Next >>
kronos77
Groupie
United States
Joined 6738 days ago

78 posts - 81 votes 
1 sounds
Speaks: English*
Studies: Russian, Dutch, Mandarin

 
 Message 1 of 29
14 July 2006 at 4:19pm | IP Logged 
I found a copy of Russian Without Toil in a used bookstore. It is the 1951
edition by Cherel. Is this the same text as found in the current edition of
any other Assimil Russian courses? I am looking for the audio and I
understand that the newer editions are totally different.
1 person has voted this message useful



omicron
Senior Member
United States
Joined 7120 days ago

125 posts - 132 votes 
Speaks: English*

 
 Message 2 of 29
14 July 2006 at 8:21pm | IP Logged 
Russian Without Toil is a couple generations behind the current texts/audio. I compared notes with Fanatic a while back on that very subject, since I wanted to find out if the tapes I have for my 1971 Russe Sans Peine would match the Without Toil book. Apparently they're pretty close to each other up to about lesson 50, but beyond that they're different.

Your best bet is probably periodic searches on abebooks.com and the various ebay sites.
1 person has voted this message useful



kronos77
Groupie
United States
Joined 6738 days ago

78 posts - 81 votes 
1 sounds
Speaks: English*
Studies: Russian, Dutch, Mandarin

 
 Message 3 of 29
14 July 2006 at 8:42pm | IP Logged 
I am looking through this book now and I agree with what has been said
before. The older Assimil courses were much better. The newer ones seem
dumbed down by comparision.

I think got a good deal at 5.00.
1 person has voted this message useful



Sudaca1
Newbie
Peru
Joined 6223 days ago

13 posts - 13 votes
Speaks: Spanish*
Studies: English

 
 Message 4 of 29
19 August 2008 at 12:18am | IP Logged 
Are there actually an English version for the 70's edition? 'Cause I can't seem to find any, all of them seem to be dated of 196x.
1 person has voted this message useful



josht
Diglot
Senior Member
United States
Joined 6445 days ago

635 posts - 857 votes 
Speaks: English*, German
Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch

 
 Message 5 of 29
19 August 2008 at 7:19am | IP Logged 
Sudaca1: I wasn't able to find an English copy from the 1970s via bookfinder.com. I ended up getting a copy of Russisch ohne Mühe, published in the 70s. There were quite a few copies of it available at booklooker.de. But obviously, you'll need to have a decent grasp of German to use it. :)
1 person has voted this message useful



Rollo the Cat
Groupie
United States
Joined 6033 days ago

77 posts - 90 votes 
Speaks: English*
Studies: Italian, Russian, Ancient Greek

 
 Message 6 of 29
19 August 2008 at 10:03am | IP Logged 
I have never seen an English copy of the 70s version, only German and I remember being told that one never
existed. I also have the 51 version and would like to get the audio.
1 person has voted this message useful



Sudaca1
Newbie
Peru
Joined 6223 days ago

13 posts - 13 votes
Speaks: Spanish*
Studies: English

 
 Message 7 of 29
19 August 2008 at 10:52pm | IP Logged 
Hm... Taking a look at Amazon, they do have one for Jun/1980 (that unfortunely has no sellers/copies right now), but I don't know if it's a mistake, since most of those informations were inputed by Amazon Makerplace sellers. So if anyone has it, please confirm.

I'm thinking of getting the old one (from the 50's). Can I use the 70's recordings at least, as stated before, for the first 50 lessons? What about the rest, do they differ too much? Is it worthy getting the 70's french edition as well? My French ain't that good, but I can read it a little.
1 person has voted this message useful



josht
Diglot
Senior Member
United States
Joined 6445 days ago

635 posts - 857 votes 
Speaks: English*, German
Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch

 
 Message 8 of 29
20 August 2008 at 5:18am | IP Logged 
No, you can't use the 70's recordings with the book from the 50's. I can confirm that they don't line up at all, not even in the first lesson.


1 person has voted this message useful



This discussion contains 29 messages over 4 pages: 2 3 4  Next >>


Post ReplyPost New Topic Printable version Printable version

You cannot post new topics in this forum - You cannot reply to topics in this forum - You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum - You cannot create polls in this forum - You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page was generated in 0.2969 seconds.


DHTML Menu By Milonic JavaScript
Copyright 2024 FX Micheloud - All rights reserved
No part of this website may be copied by any means without my written authorization.