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| Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 7027 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian | Message 25 of 60 30 December 2007 at 1:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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kewms,
I forgot to add that the limits of the Japanese library (only 200 items) is easily supplemented by importing any content you want, text and sound. One of our learners explained on our Forum that he separated the words in text that he imports, in which case the Japanese section works the same as all the others. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| kewms Senior Member United States Joined 6186 days ago 160 posts - 159 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese | Message 26 of 60 30 December 2007 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Your insulting response to feedback that you requested is noted.
The site's dictionary did not contain any of the first three words I looked up. In one of the beginner-level selections. The flash card system and database were so slow as to be unusable. (I've got a dual core system with a fiber connection, so it's not a problem at my end.) That's what I mean when I describe the Japanese support as pitiful.
You're right. I should have abandoned it more quickly rather than hoping that my initial impression was mistaken. Maybe I would have if I had been told about the poor Japanese support rather than having to look in the forums for the information. Katherine 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6674 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 27 of 60 30 December 2007 at 1:53pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I think I have learned English with extensive reading. First reading websites and second reading books. I had no interest in learning English, but on the content. At the beginning I used Babylon when it was free and then wordreference. I used dictionaries when it was unavoidable and without marking out words or flashcards or wordlists. If you use extensive reading with very occasional use of dictionaries, you will learn to read the target language. No mystery at all. Regarding unknown words, the last two weeks I have begun watching American TV serials without subtitles (neither Spanish or English). When I read the scripts I realize I have understood less than 40%, but I am surprised because I understand the plot and enjoy the movies.I don't know if that is "krashen comprehensible input" or something like "extensive listening", but it seems a good method with much less than 95% known words. Edited by slucido on 30 December 2007 at 1:57pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 7027 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian | Message 28 of 60 30 December 2007 at 2:02pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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kewms,
Your "feedback" was an arrogant attack in which you called the site "pitifull" and implied that we took money for non-existent functionality. both statements are not true. I went to the Japanese section just now and studied "I am a cat" by Soseki. The dictionary was fine, the flash cards worked fine. Everything went smoothly and quickly. I do not believe you spent a morning. I do believe you did not like the site. By the way, are you a school teacher perhaps? I recognize certain traits. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Art07 Groupie Russian Federation Joined 6213 days ago 61 posts - 64 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 29 of 60 30 December 2007 at 2:07pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I think it is time to call for the administrator to dump this thread from the main discussion of the forum, as it was done with Zhuangzi's posts before.
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| kewms Senior Member United States Joined 6186 days ago 160 posts - 159 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese | Message 30 of 60 30 December 2007 at 2:32pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Pricing for Japanese learners is identical to pricing for other learners. Japanese functionality, by your own admission, is not. I used the word "pitiful" in a clearly subjective statement of my own experiences, and I stand by my use of the word. I'll leave it to the forum audience to judge who is and is not arrogant. Katherine 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| frenkeld Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6942 days ago 2042 posts - 2719 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German | Message 31 of 60 30 December 2007 at 2:43pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
My colleague once annunciated the following policy on internecine warfare among his 3 kids: "I don't care about fair, I care about quiet." P.S. Your original post was pretty strongly worded, by the way. A sure way to have a lil' conflagration. Ask and you shall receive ... :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 7027 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian | Message 32 of 60 30 December 2007 at 2:55pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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kewms
Whether you are a free member or choose to join as a paying member, as a member you can access all languages. Some languages have more content and some have less. The dictionary works better for some than for others, for some words than for others, and at some times than at others. Such is the world of the web. Members can use their own dictionaries and import their own content to supplement. To call a learning site "pitiful" is not merely a subjective statement. It is a strong term of objective condemnation. It is quite different from " I did not like it" " It did not meet my needs." When you say "Do you really think it's wise to charge users full price for functionality that, by your own admission, does not work" you imply that we are fooling people. This is simply malicious slander. Since most people start as free members, if they decide to upgrade in order to get tutorial help, they know exactly what they are paying for. I agree that this flurry about LingQ should be on another thread. I think we have strayed off topic. Nevertheless I feel obligated to respond to you because of the tone and nature of your comments. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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