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lloydkirk
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Message 34 of 40

26 January 2008 at 2:34pm | IP Logged

Polar wrote:

lloydkirk, one has to but scroll up to see that the only one here engaging in "long irrational uniformed rants" is you.

The influence of Spanish in the United States is only going to grow. There is nothing wrong with that and if US businesses are smart, they will embrace and market to that. As long as those that speak English can still conduct business in English when and where they choose, what's the problem? There is no hardship involved in having to "push 1 for English, push 2 for Spanish."

If Americans vote to make Spanish an official co-language of the US, then it is the choice of the American people, myself included. Tell me, will you bemoan the loss of American culture (perhaps change is a better word) that will cause? Not likely.
Whose to say the culture would not be enriched?

As I said before, your anti-french propoganda is not so obvious in this thread. It is glaringly obvious to me, because of what you have said in other threads. Trying to portray me as irrationally paranoid is a silly game. One only has to look here: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=6492&PN=0&TPN=4.

As for Spanish, I think it's popularity has already peaked. The stats show that 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics are decreasingly proficient in Spanish and many don't speak it at all.
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BelgoHead
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Message 35 of 40

26 January 2008 at 4:23pm | IP Logged

Lyordric you made a good point about Spanish. If my memory serves me right the statistics for Spanish speakers in the USA go like this.

First Generation Immigrants: 100% speak Spanish

2nd Generation: 35% speak Spanish

3rd Generation: 15% Speak Spanish

4th Generation: 3-5% speak Spanish

The statistic i gave may be incorrect by a few numbers but on the whole it is accurate(im quoting it from memory)

You can clearly see that Spanish is no threat to English.

Edited by BelgoHead on 26 January 2008 at 4:24pm
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BelgoHead
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Message 38 of 40

27 January 2008 at 4:04pm | IP Logged

Polar this is what Lloyd said

"As for Spanish, I think it's popularity has already peaked. The stats show that 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics are decreasingly proficient in Spanish and many don't speak it at all."

I was giving his claim substance with statistics that i know of. Is that so wrong?

Edited by BelgoHead on 27 January 2008 at 4:05pm
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bushwick
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Message 39 of 40

28 January 2008 at 9:46am | IP Logged

Polar wrote:

If Americans vote to make Spanish an official co-language of the US, then it is the choice of the American people, myself included. Tell me, will you bemoan the loss of American culture (perhaps change is a better word) that will cause? Not likely.
Whose to say the culture would not be enriched?

one note; Spanish can't be a co-official language, as the united states don't even have an official language per se.
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