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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6431 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 1 of 13 05 April 2008 at 7:13am | IP Logged |
As my L-R log has shown, I have not done any L-R in a couple of weeks. A combination of personal events and ill health made it essentially impossible. I consider the experiment a partial success nonetheless: it has greatly increased what I can do with Polish, especially passively, and, more than that, it's gotten other people to try L-R, all of whom haven't been so verbose about it, but several of whom have better results. It's also changed the way I process audio input and think about grammar.
My plan for the next while is 'happy wandering'. I expect that this will involve massive amounts of L-R for various languages, as well as lots and lots of music. More details will be available in my post in the "lessons in polyglottery" subforum in the next day or two. However, I intended to be guided entirely by the amount of fun I'm having, rather than any other objective, at least for the short- and mid-term.
For now, I'm finding that Łzy - Puste słowa is a great song for 'shadow-singing', which has long been something I enjoy. It almost entirely consists of the chorus,
"Kocham cię / Kocham / To tylko puste słowa / puste słowa
Kocham cię / Kocham / Zacznijmy od nowa wszystko budować"
which, while not exactly deep, is extremely simple Polish, and except for the last line, I don't have much difficulty understanding it (Zacznijmy is maddeningly familiar, but I don't currently remember it).
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| charlmartell Super Polyglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6236 days ago 286 posts - 298 votes Speaks: French, English, German, Luxembourgish*, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Dutch, Italian, Latin, Ancient Greek Studies: Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 2 of 13 05 April 2008 at 9:10am | IP Logged |
Volte wrote:
(Zacznijmy is maddeningly familiar, but I don't currently remember it).
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Doesn't zacznijmy mean 'let's begin". In other words, let's rebuild whatever it was that went haywire in our relationship? At least that's what I think, though I don't know the song, and can't really hear the rest of the words on YouTube for background noise.
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6431 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 4 of 13 06 April 2008 at 4:02am | IP Logged |
bacchanalian wrote:
Volte, I was looking forward to your active phase LR.
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It will happen eventually. My singing to songs is a small variation of the first step of it (production at the same time as input, without looking at text).
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6431 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 6 of 13 28 April 2008 at 7:53am | IP Logged |
Three weeks later, here's an update.
- I've gathered enough material to L-R Polish again, although I'll prepare more for the sake of variety. I intend to start in a few weeks, after some non-language-related stuff is out of the way.
- I've continued listening to music in a variety of languages: mainly Polish, but with significant amounts of Greek and Dutch, and small amounts of Esperanto, German, Italian, Spanish, English, and Persian.
- I've done some language study. I've been using Dutch a little more (and 'Gilgamesh' has kindly been helping me with it), and I've spent some time with Bray's "Guide to the Slavonic Languages", which has some nice gems in its Polish chapter.
- I've dropped "Remembering the Kanji" for the moment. My resumption of it was based on an assumption I learned was unfounded. Japanese is now solidly in the background for a while.
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| Alkeides Senior Member Bhutan Joined 6140 days ago 636 posts - 644 votes
| Message 7 of 13 28 April 2008 at 10:30am | IP Logged |
Out of curiousity, what assumption regarding "Remembering the Kanji" was that?
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6431 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 8 of 13 28 April 2008 at 10:42am | IP Logged |
amphises wrote:
Out of curiousity, what assumption regarding "Remembering the Kanji" was that? |
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It wasn't an assumption about RTK. It was an assumption about the availability of specific material for two (or three, depending on how you count) other languages. It turned out that this is very scarce/non-existent in the form I was thinking of. As a result, Japanese has fallen a few places on my list of languages to learn, so (re)starting a pre-study of the Kanji doesn't make sense at this point.
For what it's worth, I'm tentatively considering Hungarian in its place. But I won't be tackling that for a while yet. Japanese will probably wait until after Russian. And, of course, all of this is subject to change; my current focus remains Polish.
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