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| ReachingOut Pentaglot Groupie Greece Joined 5238 days ago 57 posts - 81 votes  Speaks: English*, German, GreekB2, French, Romanian Studies: Italian | Message 26 of 35 29 July 2010 at 11:34am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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For me German has the most interesting grammar because of the positioning of the verb in the sentence. Normally, the verb is placed second in the sentence after the subject, but modal verbs and subordinate sentences send the verb to the end of the sentence and it's possible to have up to three verbs at the end of the sentence.
"Die Autos müssen gewaschen werden" = the cars must be washed but the actual word order is "the cars must washed be" "Ich habe gesagt, dass die Autos gewaschen werden müssen" = I said that the cars had to be washed, the actual word order is "I said that the cars washed be must" 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| chucknorrisman Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5449 days ago 321 posts - 435 votes Speaks: Korean*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, Mandarin, Lithuanian, French | Message 27 of 35 01 September 2010 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I find it interesting that Korean is a pro-drop language (and quite strongly at that) when the verbs don't even inflect for person and number.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 28 of 35 01 September 2010 at 5:03pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I don't think it has anything to do with it. I'm sure plenty of languages without articles have noun-modifying clauses that come after the noun (Finnish? Russian?...) -- articles and word order are entirely unrelated matters.
Sure there is -- before the noun clause! The and This are usually in the same spot in languages with articles.
I see no reason to think that this would be the case. Most languages have some kind of verb ending and most languages are SOV. In an SOV language, the verb is at the end -- you don't need an ending to tell you that. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 29 of 35 01 September 2010 at 5:36pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Can anyone think of a language with articles and no gender, apart from English?
Also, I believe most languages -- if not all -- that do not have a system of noun classification (genders, noun classes or noun classifiers [like Chinese or Japanese]) have some system of declension or cases. Again, English is the only exception I can think of. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6440 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 30 of 35 01 September 2010 at 6:36pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Esperanto and Afrikaans immediately spring to mind. Persian has no grammatical gender, and most sources claim it has no articles, though some disagree.
Afrikaans again comes to mind. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 31 of 35 01 September 2010 at 6:41pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Great! I didn't know that! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5179 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 32 of 35 17 November 2010 at 2:41pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Korean!
It has so many grammar conjugtions. With very subtle meanings: 한국어을 잘 하시네요 your Koren is very good. 네 =expresses personal opinion 시 = expresses respect to the person doing the action of the verb. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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