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jsun
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Message 9 of 11

23 December 2010 at 11:15am | IP Logged

Pantherus wrote:

egill wrote:

The similar Chinese origin words are just the result of them both borrowing words from
Chinese. It absolutely does not indicate that Japanese and Korean were once Chinese
dialects, and in fact there isn't really any evidence that this case.

No, it doesn't indicate that both are Chinese dialects. I just assumed that many, many
centuries ago, Japanese and Korean were some sort of Chinese variation/dialect. I didn't
state that they were definitely dialects at all. However, it seems more like they became
pseudo-dialects. They adopted the writing system and many words, then slowly drifted apart,
creating difference. Not dialects in the way that Taiwanese and Mandarin and
Shanghainese are, but something different. So, don't worry. I'm not a language professor and
I'm not trying to spread around fallacies. I'm just speculating and discussing.

Taiwanese(Min), Shanghaiese(Wu) are not dialects of Mandarin. Wu maybe somewhat
intelligible with Mandarin but it does have grammatical and lexical different from Mandarin.
Min is not intelligible with Mandarin. 60% of Min vocabulary is different from Mandarin.
Southern Chinese languages (Cantonese, Min and Hakka) are totally unintelligible with
Mandarin. China is as big as a continent and how can people from the North (like
Russia)and South (like Spain and even Algeria) speak "dialects"? Call them LANGUAGES.

Japanese and Korean are polysyllabic and have different grammar with other Chinese
branch languages.

Edited by jsun on 23 December 2010 at 11:20am
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jimbo
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Message 10 of 11

23 December 2010 at 11:17am | IP Logged

If you're bored, look up 'Phags-pa script.
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jsun
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Message 11 of 11

28 December 2010 at 10:30am | IP Logged

jimbo wrote:

If you're bored, look up 'Phags-pa script.

I know Korean alphabet is from Tibet through Mongolian

Anyway, here you go.

Korean is interesting. They use Indian script but have Chinese loanwords that sound like
Hakka/Cantonese.

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