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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 15 17 February 2011 at 2:26pm | IP Logged |
Danish:
+/- or ± : plusminus
≈ : cirka (or one of the many alternatives, including "rundt regnet", "godt og vel" and the German loanword "ungefähr" (which few Danes can spell))
They don't mean the same thing: with +/- or ± you indicate a range, for instance 65 ± 5 years = somewhere between 60 and 70 years. With ≈ there is a central value, but no explicit indication of range
And yes, we use those signs
Edited by Iversen on 17 February 2011 at 2:29pm
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| mirab3lla Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom lang-8.com/220477Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5444 days ago 161 posts - 229 votes Speaks: Romanian*, EnglishC2, German Studies: Spanish, FrenchB1, Mandarin
| Message 3 of 15 17 February 2011 at 2:38pm | IP Logged |
Romanian:
≈ = aproximativ, circa, cam (a bit colloquial)
± = plus-minus
Trivia:
”=” = egal
+ = plus
- = minus
/ = supra, pe
* = ori, înmulțit cu
We also use them, at least I use them a lot, as I am studying intensive Maths at high school (grr, not a wise choice).
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| tozick Diglot Groupie Poland Joined 6363 days ago 44 posts - 69 votes Speaks: Polish*, English
| Message 4 of 15 17 February 2011 at 2:56pm | IP Logged |
In Polish:
~ : około(about)
≈ : w przybliżeniu (approximately)
They both mean pretty much the same thing, although I was taught that they have 2 slightly different meaning. Double tilde was way more popular, though.
± : plus minus
We've never really been taught it, and I've only seen it once in a highschool math book.
In normal conversations we usually use około/koło, plus minus or circa.
There were 2 other symbols that provided hours of entertainment for us during highschool. To be precise not the symbols themselves, but their meaning in polish.
∨ and 'exclusive or' symbol ∨_ (I don't know how to type the symbol).
∨ is translated as lub while ∨_ is translated as albo. My class spent about 3 hours arguing with our maths teacher about the definition of lub and albo. Majority of people believed they mean exactly the same thing, and that there is no subtle difference. Minority, including the teacher, knew that there was a difference, A lub B means A or B or both, and A albo B means either A or B, not both. The discussion, or more likely argument was so intense that the teacher gathered all Polish language teachers once and asked them whether or not there was a difference between these 2 words. Funnily enough even they weren't unanimous, one out of seven thought they meant the same thing.
Edited by tozick on 17 February 2011 at 3:13pm
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| tozick Diglot Groupie Poland Joined 6363 days ago 44 posts - 69 votes Speaks: Polish*, English
| Message 6 of 15 17 February 2011 at 5:23pm | IP Logged |
I believe you could use 'ex VAT' as in excluding VAT and inc VAT 'including VAT' for HTVA and TVAC respectively. I know you didn't ask for it but in Polish we say 'netto' for without VAT and 'brutto' for the price with VAT.
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| tozick Diglot Groupie Poland Joined 6363 days ago 44 posts - 69 votes Speaks: Polish*, English
| Message 8 of 15 17 February 2011 at 8:00pm | IP Logged |
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The netto and brutto I've heard as well but it's not used by the pricing I think, only for the tax on your income, no? For example if you earn 5.000 € brutto in February, you will receive only € 2.500 netto. It's another tax's type (?) |
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Well in Poland we use brutto and netto for both.
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