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| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5770 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes  Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 33 of 37 16 March 2011 at 4:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
Sorry for that comment. PonyGirl, I'll write you a PM, okay?
Is that your own experience? Did you learn about it/to do this when you prepared for ESL teaching? (I hope I'm not mistaken) Did you read research about it? How aware are teachers that they are doing that? What about native speakers who find themselves in a teaching position without being qualified for it, how do they learn to speak in a way that is most beneficial for the student, and if they don't why not? I remember the day when I observed how a friend of my host family in Spain taught the four year old daughter of that family her first English words ("water, please") when we were at the beach and the girl wanted to drink some water. It took her minutes of playful coerxing, and it stuck (with the help of the parents who later congratulated her for learning that phrase, what was it again?) That woman was an English teacher in primary school, and I've always wondered how exactly she learnt her skills. (Not so much the setting itself, but that she made the child repeat the phrase enough times that she remembered it later and could've built upon it.) It was also quite interesting to observe how almost all Spanish speakers adjusted their level of speech (speed, complexitiy) when talking to me that I could understand them well enough, reacting to my facial expressions and body language. Edited by Bao on 16 March 2011 at 4:35pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5385 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 34 of 37 16 March 2011 at 4:35pm | IP Logged | |||||
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When children start using a new word, we simplify our utterances and stress that word.
In L2, we present new words and structures in isolation, and make students practice it right away. I'd also suspect that most teachers then make an effort to use the new information more often than usual, at least for a little while. Most students also do that. So essentially, most teachers, methods and students more or less already do the same thing. As cool as it is that we are documenting this phenomenon with children for the first time, it's hardly surprising, and we're already doing something similar in L2. What did strike me however, is how the child has heard and used specific words in specific contexts or parts of the house. For instance, water is a lot more common in the kitchen and in the bathroom. To me, this reinforces the power of learning words in context in the real world. Edited by Arekkusu on 16 March 2011 at 4:36pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| CheeseInsider Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5126 days ago 193 posts - 238 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin* Studies: French, German | Message 35 of 37 19 March 2011 at 3:20pm | IP Logged | |||||
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For the people who think that the child is unlucky and has bad parents or something...
I think the boy has excellent parents. They were on camera for what, 5 years? Non stop? If they can be recorded for that long, and not have any problems with showing the footage to the world, then obviously they took good care of their child! No parent who abuses their child would ever show footage of that. In fact, they probably wouldn't even video tape it in the first place if that was the case. :P But on a more related note... I didn't really... Find anything about the article that fascinating... Rather dull. Maybe if one parent spoke to the child in one language, and the other in another then it would be more interesting. Possibly. Something that would be extremely interesting though is if the parents didn't speak to their child, but instead just grunted and made mewing sounds to indicate what they meant. That would be hilarious! But really evil and needlessly cruel... Edited by CheeseInsider on 19 March 2011 at 4:08pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5770 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 36 of 37 20 March 2011 at 3:08am | IP Logged | |||||
I can't find the source, but I read about a German king who wanted to have a group of orphaned children raised without their caregivers talking to them. It didn't work out because the women couldn't do it. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Spanky Senior Member Canada Joined 5960 days ago 1021 posts - 1714 votes Studies: French | Message 37 of 37 20 March 2011 at 4:44am | IP Logged | |||||
I expect you are thinking of Emperor Frederick the Second: Frederick bade "foster-mothers and nurses to suckle and bathe and wash the children, but in no ways to prattle or speak with them; for he would have learnt whether they would speak the Hebrew language (which had been the first), or Greek, or Latin, or Arabic, or perchance the tongue of their parents of whom they had been born. But he laboured in vain, for the children could not live without clappings of the hands, and gestures, and gladness of countenance, and blandishments." crazy old Frederick 1 person has voted this message useful |
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